Good one. Totally helped with our current situation. Solid burn Branch.

 

I have confirmation that LC 171 has received a recall resolution for at least the CA rep.

 

SFO 34…Noel & Jake have to go. Apathetic Bunch. Just nod yes…

please show up next meeting…We can get them out pretty easily. SFO usually has low voter participation

 

How can we tell which meeting will hold the recall vote and what if we can't make it due to trip or illness?

As a commuter I haven't yet been to an LEC meeting. I don't have a clue except I see times and locations in emails. I've been hesitant to ask for a recall because the last thing I want to do is to call a vote and then not be there for it. Can someone perhaps walk me step-by-step how a recall would go from my perspective, all the way through voting? Yes, I'm that retarded. Please use small words. Detail the process. What must I do, exactly, in order to both start and follow through.

PS: I'm not initiated to Roberts rules of order and a motion is to me a Newtonian concept. I do know what email is however. Also, what kind of fukery can I expect? Renegotiating a TA during MR voting is fukery so something tells me that following the rules isn't going to work.

 

The Recall Process: Three Easy Steps

1) Get a resolution floored and passed and it has to be added to the meeting agenda item. Simply follow this template posted by Jerry L:

All you need to do is send an email to the local council chair that says something like the following:

“I would like to have consideration of recall for Captain Smith placed on the meeting notice for the next local council meeting”

“I would like to have consideration of recall for First Officer Smith placed on the meeting notice for the next local council meeting”.

Copy the VP of Admin, Captain Bill Couette**
Vice President of Administration/Secretary
Air Line Pilots Association, International
Email: Go to ALPA.org and log in, then search “Bill Couette email address” and you’ll find it under committees-organizations (the first search result)


2) If the resolution passes it has to be carried to the next meeting so the rest of the council has a chance to consider and vote to pass or fail the motion to recall.

3) If the motion passes to recall it goes to ALPA national and will be open to vote for the members of the council.

Make sure you organize well ahead of time and get the word out. Plan to stack the meeting to standing room only. Once the reps get wind you are planning a recall they will call out their shills in force to attend the meeting.

Get familiar with the basics of Robert’s Rules of Order.

All I can say is Organize, Organize, Organize, and get the word out, because if the recall fails it will further embolden the reps and their minions.

Last, keep the resolution short and sweet, no need for dozens of Whereas. Have someone ready to Second the resolution. Once its been second the resolution is now open for debate and vote.

Here is a simple template you can use.

Whereas: The LEC reps of Council ____ voted in favor of a substandard TA.
Whereas: The LEC reps of Council_____ failed to take input from the members of Council _____ concerning a CBA.
Therefore Be It Resolved: The members of Council ____ have no faith in the current Council Reps to produce an industry leading contract.

Be it further resolved: The members of Council ____ request a vote to recall its Captain and FO representatives.

 

To find Bill Couette email address:

Go to ALPA - Advancing Aviation Safety and Security since 1931
Log in
Search “Bill Couette email address”
His email address will appear under the first search result “committees-organizations”

You can also click on the “committees-organizations” result and find his email address on page 3

 

So my initial email is a resolution? Who votes in step 2 if not the full council? Do I need to vote in person for step 2? Why would we need to carry the vote to the next meeting if we had people to vote in the first one? This honestly makes no sense to someone who hasn't done this kind of business before.

Can you explain it as steps from my perspective? The big picture steps are nice to know but I'm having trouble seeing what my role is in the process.

 

What council? Looks like some got done today. As AO said show up or send proxy to the meeting. LEC will call all their buddies to come vote for them and it will be lost. The emails are showing the different councils think all is well now.

 

Can one guy be a proxy for several? I'm thinking there are a lot of guys who'd like to vote but don't have guy to send. I certainly don't, and if I did it would be another pilot with a vote of his own.

Might we be able to organize a single proxy to represent those who cannot attend?

 

Each pilot present can carry 3 proxy’s. That’s the rule.