Interview/Hiring Updates
08-21-2025 | 04:44 PM
#871
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I didn't realize that LifetimeCFI skipped the regionals. Perhaps then I agree with you, as skipping the regionals, or the opportunity to do so was a GOLDEN opportunity. I don't know enough of those "skip the regionals" people to frame a narrative nor I am suggesting thats Lifetimes narrative............but if that expectation exists of cfi-righrt seat lcc- legacy it is most definitely flawed.................................and maybe because they got one big break they might think big breaks like that are normal or they deserve big breaks because of whatever.
I could be wrong, but I believe he is in that cohort. If not, I apologize. Regardless you described it perfectly. I think that’s what’s going on with some. I got lucky, went right to an LCC, made it through training, and have been swinging gear for 500 hours, WTH couldn’t I do that at AA, DL, UA.
Of course they could. What’s missing is the recognition of how lucky they were to do it at F9 or NK in the first place and the fact how much less experience they’d be bringing to the table than your average legacy hire pre hiring frenzy.
Of course they could. What’s missing is the recognition of how lucky they were to do it at F9 or NK in the first place and the fact how much less experience they’d be bringing to the table than your average legacy hire pre hiring frenzy.
Most of us recognize our luck, my personal mentor had it easy and still did 6+ years at a regional + a stint at a ULCC. I wouldn't be in the positions I am (and I don't mean my flying job, but my volunteer "jobs") if I was some hot-shot know-nothing who thinks they're entitled the world. This **** is unfair and incredibly luck/timing based, best we can do is put our best feet forward and hope for the best. I'm happy to be flying my dream job and happier to be contributing to the success of others. Hopeful to bring that to UA someday.
08-21-2025 | 05:04 PM
#872
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I did skip the regionals due to lucky timing but you're drawing conclusions that don't exist. Point where I said I was entitled a legacy job? I've only remarked on trends I'm seeing and thoughts on why that is. I may be inexperienced, but in a short time I've become extremely well-connected and informed, working with lots of people on various things (vagueness to avoid doxxing). The wave is definitely kicking on and people with marginally more time than 1000 turbine/2500 total time are actively receiving interviews and CJOs. An overwhelming majority of them are ULCC/LCC FOs from NK, F9, and B6, and probably 98% of the ones I personally know, are volunteering at organizations similar to the one I'm volunteering at. Don't shoot the messenger.
Most of us recognize our luck, my personal mentor had it easy and still did 6+ years at a regional + a stint at a ULCC. I wouldn't be in the positions I am (and I don't mean my flying job, but my volunteer "jobs") if I was some hot-shot know-nothing who thinks they're entitled the world. If it ruffles your feathers that I'm as involved and optimistic (and lucky) as I am, that's not my fault, rather your own problem. This **** is unfair and incredibly luck/timing based, best we can do is put our best feet forward and hope for the best.
Most of us recognize our luck, my personal mentor had it easy and still did 6+ years at a regional + a stint at a ULCC. I wouldn't be in the positions I am (and I don't mean my flying job, but my volunteer "jobs") if I was some hot-shot know-nothing who thinks they're entitled the world. If it ruffles your feathers that I'm as involved and optimistic (and lucky) as I am, that's not my fault, rather your own problem. This **** is unfair and incredibly luck/timing based, best we can do is put our best feet forward and hope for the best.
Anyone selling doom is trying to self-justify their choice to stay where they are, or ironically one of those guys who started flying in 2019 and lucked into a legacy job at the bare min qualifications and wants to pretend they know how this industry works more than anyone else. Lol
08-21-2025 | 06:11 PM
#873
On Reserve
Joined: Aug 2023
Posts: 25
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I did skip the regionals due to lucky timing but you're drawing conclusions that don't exist. Point where I said I was entitled a legacy job? I've only remarked on trends I'm seeing and thoughts on why that is. I may be inexperienced, but in a short time I've become extremely well-connected and informed, working with lots of people on various things (vagueness to avoid doxxing). The wave is definitely kicking on and people with marginally more time than 1000 turbine/2500 total time are actively receiving interviews and CJOs. An overwhelming majority of them are ULCC/LCC FOs from NK, F9, and B6, and probably 98% of the ones I personally know, are volunteering at organizations similar to the one I'm volunteering at. Don't shoot the messenger.
Most of us recognize our luck, my personal mentor had it easy and still did 6+ years at a regional + a stint at a ULCC. I wouldn't be in the positions I am (and I don't mean my flying job, but my volunteer "jobs") if I was some hot-shot know-nothing who thinks they're entitled the world. This **** is unfair and incredibly luck/timing based, best we can do is put our best feet forward and hope for the best. I'm happy to be flying my dream job and happier to be contributing to the success of others. Hopeful to bring that to UA someday.
Most of us recognize our luck, my personal mentor had it easy and still did 6+ years at a regional + a stint at a ULCC. I wouldn't be in the positions I am (and I don't mean my flying job, but my volunteer "jobs") if I was some hot-shot know-nothing who thinks they're entitled the world. This **** is unfair and incredibly luck/timing based, best we can do is put our best feet forward and hope for the best. I'm happy to be flying my dream job and happier to be contributing to the success of others. Hopeful to bring that to UA someday.
considering DEC positions now). Sorry I think captain time should trump anytime taking care of puppies at the humane society.
08-22-2025 | 08:15 AM
#874
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That might be what you think, but the people in charge of hiring in today's major airlines simply use an AI filter to screen times out of applications and then want candidates that have other experiences- even if its taking care of puppies at the humane society. You may not like it, and every pilot thinks they know how to run the company, but that is how it is.
08-22-2025 | 10:19 AM
#875
On Reserve
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 54
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Wanted to contribute as well.
3700 TT
~ 1500 PIC
0 TPIC
4 year aviation degree
Solid volunteer background
0 checkride fails
Received assessment in the morning, did it that evening, email to schedule an interview was in my inbox 3 hours later. Application had been in the United system for two years leading up to the assessment. Part of the NK group getting furloughed but did not check the box yet.
3700 TT
~ 1500 PIC
0 TPIC
4 year aviation degree
Solid volunteer background
0 checkride fails
Received assessment in the morning, did it that evening, email to schedule an interview was in my inbox 3 hours later. Application had been in the United system for two years leading up to the assessment. Part of the NK group getting furloughed but did not check the box yet.
08-22-2025 | 11:01 AM
#876
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Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 934
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Wanted to contribute as well.
3700 TT
~ 1500 PIC
0 TPIC
4 year aviation degree
Solid volunteer background
0 checkride fails
Received assessment in the morning, did it that evening, email to schedule an interview was in my inbox 3 hours later. Application had been in the United system for two years leading up to the assessment. Part of the NK group getting furloughed but did not check the box yet.
3700 TT
~ 1500 PIC
0 TPIC
4 year aviation degree
Solid volunteer background
0 checkride fails
Received assessment in the morning, did it that evening, email to schedule an interview was in my inbox 3 hours later. Application had been in the United system for two years leading up to the assessment. Part of the NK group getting furloughed but did not check the box yet.
Good luck!
08-22-2025 | 11:58 AM
#877
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Joined: Sep 2021
Posts: 439
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Wanted to contribute as well.
3700 TT
~ 1500 PIC
0 TPIC
4 year aviation degree
Solid volunteer background
0 checkride fails
Received assessment in the morning, did it that evening, email to schedule an interview was in my inbox 3 hours later. Application had been in the United system for two years leading up to the assessment. Part of the NK group getting furloughed but did not check the box yet.
3700 TT
~ 1500 PIC
0 TPIC
4 year aviation degree
Solid volunteer background
0 checkride fails
Received assessment in the morning, did it that evening, email to schedule an interview was in my inbox 3 hours later. Application had been in the United system for two years leading up to the assessment. Part of the NK group getting furloughed but did not check the box yet.
08-22-2025 | 02:36 PM
#879
Where is my weekends off?
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 340
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From: A320
08-22-2025 | 07:18 PM
#880
On Reserve
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 178
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there is still something to be said at the end of the day about TPIC though. This is why people should still be going to regionals and avoiding the ULCCs (especially now) because at a regional it’s 2 years to upgrade, get in get out. All these guys going to ULCCs i know believed they would be going right seat CFI-right seat ULCC-right seat legacy without ever having to have the responsibility of actually being in charge. I don’t feel bad for the guy who’s now wondering where his PIC time is gonna come from in a timely manner, maybe should have gone to a regional (I know plenty
considering DEC positions now). Sorry I think captain time should trump anytime taking care of puppies at the humane society.
considering DEC positions now). Sorry I think captain time should trump anytime taking care of puppies at the humane society.
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