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#73
I agree with your sentiment, but the arbitrators will have to start somewhere to objectively measure and quantifiably define the subjective "Career Expectations" component of sli.
An arbitration last summer ruled that W2 Wage Data (includes not just pay but imputed employee contributions for healthcare) is a valid statistical and comparative baseline tool that reflects the monetary value of disparate pre-merged contracts.
An arbitration last summer ruled that W2 Wage Data (includes not just pay but imputed employee contributions for healthcare) is a valid statistical and comparative baseline tool that reflects the monetary value of disparate pre-merged contracts.
http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2...Equivalent.htm
#74
And now we have ****ty coffee, hillbilly service to premium passengers, and that wonderful cheeseburger that just exudes class and elegance. Thnak you, Continental. Our premeir passengers are leaving in droves thanks to the Toothless Southern Boys that are trying to run our airline. Dealing with Continental is like inviting your Ozark cousins to a black tie affair. They want to be classy, but to them, that's a tuxedo tshirt.
Cheeseburger? If it's the "buy-your-own food" burger, that didn't happen until after the merger. CAL had free food and no burgers. Thanks United.
Toothless Southern boys? Who? Just because CAL management was based in Texas that makes them all toothless Southerners? I'd find that offensive if I wasn't from CA. Smisek went to Princeton and Harvard. Is that toothless southern?
Crappy service? Sure it's gone down hill...since the merger!
CAL Awards
No. 1 Most Admired Global Airline; Fortune Magazine (2004–2009)[116]
No. 1 Most Admired U.S. Airline; Fortune Magazine (2006–2007, 2010)[117]
No. 1 Greenest U.S. Airline; Greenopia (2009)[118]
No. 1 Pet-Friendly Airline; PetFinder.org (2009)[119]
Best Executive/Business Class; OAG Airline of the Year Awards (2003–2007, 2009)[120]
Best Airline Based in North America; OAG Airline of the Year Awards (2003–2009)[120]
Best U.S. Carrier Trans-Atlantic and Trans-Pacific Business Class; Condé Nast Traveler (1999–2006)[120]
Best Airline for North American Travel; Business Traveler Magazine (2006–2009)[121]
Best Large Domestic Airline (Premium Seating); Zagat Airline Survey(2008)[122]
Best Value for the Money (International); Zagat Airline Survey (2009)[122]
Highest-Ranked Network Airline; J.D. Power and Associates (2007)[123]
Airline of the Year; OAG (2004–2005)[124]
Business Leadership Recycling Award; American Forest & Paper Association (2010)[125]
Our toothless southern management ran from the first merger with UAL and described it as hitching our boat to the titanic; but there were lots of tuxedos on the titanic.
#75
And now we have ****ty coffee, hillbilly service to premium passengers, and that wonderful cheeseburger that just exudes class and elegance. Thnak you, Continental. Our premeir passengers are leaving in droves thanks to the Toothless Southern Boys that are trying to run our airline. Dealing with Continental is like inviting your Ozark cousins to a black tie affair. They want to be classy, but to them, that's a tuxedo tshirt.
Last edited by APC225; 02-24-2013 at 06:16 AM.
#76
This MIT table accounts for "disparate pre-merged contracts." It's the individual pilot overall cost. Inspite LUAL's much greater number of wide body pilots, the total cost per pilot in 2009 and 2010 are nearly the same. It accounts for LCAL's higher W2 and LUAL's costlier work rules. IOW, the career expectations may essentially be a wash, leaning towards a relative seniority solution.
http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2...Equivalent.htm
http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2...Equivalent.htm
http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2...er%20Month.htm
Which is why manpower planning suddenly finds themselves short of pilots because this chart shows LCAL needs 600+ more pilots if they have a LUAL-type of contract, which we now have.
http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2...ity%202010.xls
Last edited by APC225; 02-24-2013 at 06:39 AM.
#77
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From: Boeing's Plastic Jet Button Pusher - 787
And now we have ****ty coffee, hillbilly service to premium passengers, and that wonderful cheeseburger that just exudes class and elegance. Thnak you, Continental. Our premeir passengers are leaving in droves thanks to the Toothless Southern Boys that are trying to run our airline. Dealing with Continental is like inviting your Ozark cousins to a black tie affair. They want to be classy, but to them, that's a tuxedo tshirt.
When working your weekend schedule, try to layoff off the Saturday Night, 2 for 1, fruity cocktails special down at the hotel bar. Someone always has to be "that guy", and you sir, must have been just that guy in the wee hours.
Attempting late night soft ball posting's after you return to your room is obviously not your calling......However, pulling a "sweet" Ricky Bobby reference keeps you on point above the "G-Line" preventing a complete "FAIL".
Good luck with the hangover.....Still need help, give James "The Godfather of Abides", a ring. I'm sure he'll provide a cure for what ails you following last night's one man $h1t-Show.
Cheers.
I'm formal, but i like to party too - YouTube
Last edited by SoCalGuy; 02-24-2013 at 06:10 AM.
#78
Then you need to turn off your Bose earplugs, lCal pilots are hearing it all the time. Usually from junior Airbus FOs.
#79
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See what you've done? Eight pages of "... sound and fury, signifying nothing." If it makes you feel any better (or worse) it's a nice preview of what you've got to look forward to.
Last edited by XHooker; 02-24-2013 at 06:25 AM.
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Nice call with TOP (I grew up a couple of blocks from Oakland in the 70s). Unfortunately, their heyday was in the 70s (when "What is Hip" was released), proving James point about the 90s. I still say the 80s (IMO, the nadir of music over the last half century) were way worse than the 90s... but I liked the grunge evolution (AIC, Soundgarden, etc.).
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