Follow up.

From a reliable source (no, I won't name them), "they" have decided to spin up for a few weeks of interviews to replenish the pool since it is getting "shallow." Exactly how many weeks a few is remains to be determined. Sounds like the target is moving because they need new hires as much as they need to do upgrades.....

At any rate, I would imagine that replenishing the pool with June interviews means they are going to ramp back up bringing on new hires full speed in the fall. Of course that's my interpretation only. My contact didn't comment on that aspect.

He did say, after the June interviews (again, a few weeks) that they would throttle back, resuming interviews again in the fall (no date specified).

Just forwarding info guys/gals. Haven't seen any official update on the subject so standby for more.

Good luck!

Lee

 

Plan according to Hiring Manager as of earlier this week:

"We will conduct interviews during the first 2 weeks of June for September classes and then expect to continue interviewing again starting in September."

The was also discussed in the UAL Pool email update.

Good Luck to all!

 

Any idea on how many will be interviewed?

 

Normally around 20-24/week.

 

I don't receive that email but it makes sense. If they plan to push it up in Sept and need some more in the pool to do it, then they need to replenish the pool with a bout of interviews.

Good news.

Lee

 

Poolies -

Any lurkers still out there that want to get on the "line-up"? Post or PM me your inteview week and first 2 of you last 4 ssn.

I will put an updated "Poolie News" out on Monday evening.....geeez it's gonna be a long wait until 19 May for the next round of calls.

Also, anyone with access....if you see the projected class sizes for July it would be very helpful, our last poolie email did not give any projections (other than we would all be in training by the end of Aug).

just watching the calendar tick by...... -MPA

 

16 in my class right now. Including us returnees

 

Don't compare yourself to these FOs. The FOs hired have immediate family members in the upper ranks of the airline or did a great job as interns (internship is essentially an interview too.) Some will deny it when you first ask, but when you dig enough you will find their link (parent, uncle, etc.) But proportionately there are very few FOs vs Captains hired.

The majority of the civilian pilots hired right now have been Captains at regionals, have 8+ years in the airlines, have been checkairmen/ IOE instructors, and have a clean record. Compare yourself to these.

The only reason United doesn't have PIC requirements to apply is to allow for those few FO exceptions. Otherwise, the industry is still highly competitive and United is skimming off the top of the applicant pool. Sounds like you are a good candidate so keep your application always updated.

Between being initially selected, and passing the online personality exam (never bring sex, politics or religion into the cockpit), United already choose to hire you. You have to either screw up the sim eval or the HR interview to make them change their mind.

 

When I did my M&G, I was told that they wanted to keep the pool stocked at ~100. But that was in Feb, when it basically stopped and they had about 180-ish swimmers.

This seems to be true, almost all the time. Back when L-CAL was hiring fast and furious (circa 2005-2008) there was a guy on this board giving class by class breakdowns of the all the new hires that he could. Most had PIC/AC time, with no TPIC being in the minority. Meaning sure, one can get hired with NO TPIC, happens frequently. But their resume/background compensated in other areas. PRIMARILY networking and contacts, interning, what have you.

Again, going from my M&G, the "average" (gottta read between the lines on that one) civ/regional new hire has 9000+ TT and 4000+ TPIC. I say AGAIN, "average". The "dark decade" and the stagnation it's created had definitely slid/skewed the numbers of the pilots that make of the civ/regional demographic as far as experience levels go.

True, and although this a UAL thread, that's actually the case at the other legacies as well without a PIC requirement. AA, DAL, and USAir have hired pilots without the PIC as well.

 

All of the FO's at my regional (SkyWest) didn't seem to have anything other than job fairs or meet a chief pilot once or twice. Many of our recently (within the last year or year and a half) upgrades have been taken by UAL as well. Most of these guys that I know have less than 1,000 jet PIC and only attended a job fair or two.

Me...not a Checkairman, app has been in for years but it seems that it's (as of lately) cheaper to make recently upgraded captains Checkairman rather than someone with 10+ years and 7K PIC in the RJ.

I have a completely clean flying record, never a problem child at the airline, and (so I'm told) I'm fun to fly with and make the job fun. I once thought networking and building a good resume of experience was what it takes to get an interview invite, but watching, hearing, and learning about the pilots that UAL is taking from SkyWest makes me wonder if all that work means nothing.

Sorry, it's just kinda dejecting to have gone through 9/11, then age 65, all the while keeping the end goal in mind, only to get this far and watch coworkers that didn't know anyone and have zero turbine PIC get called and offered the job.