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11-13-2022, 11:08 AM
#81
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
Part of what they have done in the past is overbuild schedules during peak. It is easier for them to throw everything they think they may need and cancel it rather than dump stuff in OT and hope to cover it. Not saying that is what is happening here, but that is something to consider.
I’m going to start a UPS Hiring 2023 thread. Few Q’s for those with the data:
1. new 76 coming when?
2. 2 dash 8 options are simply options at this point, no confirmed rumors?
3. SIM building - expansion but is it new (additional sims) or a shuffle
4. No classes beyond Jan rumored or confirmed correct?
5. No confirmed or even strong rumors of any MDs being parked?
Thx all!
11-13-2022, 12:47 PM
#82
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Originally Posted by FTv3
This is my belief as to what’s going on, fueled also by parts of China shutting down for Covid. Tome’s Better not bigger strategy might have turned out to be beneficial to us.
I’m going to start a UPS Hiring 2023 thread. Few Q’s for those with the data:
1. new 76 coming when?
2. 2 dash 8 options are simply options at this point, no confirmed rumors?
3. SIM building - expansion but is it new (additional sims) or a shuffle
4. No classes beyond Jan rumored or confirmed correct?
5. No confirmed or even strong rumors of any MDs being parked?
Thx all!
I’m going to start a UPS Hiring 2023 thread. Few Q’s for those with the data:
1. new 76 coming when?
2. 2 dash 8 options are simply options at this point, no confirmed rumors?
3. SIM building - expansion but is it new (additional sims) or a shuffle
4. No classes beyond Jan rumored or confirmed correct?
5. No confirmed or even strong rumors of any MDs being parked?
Thx all!
1. 28 767s. 2023-2026
2 Rumor is they are the 2 Qatar owned 747-8's A7-BGA, A7-BGB
3. Heard at least 1 new sim waiting to be put there
4. Peeps have Feb and Mar classes sked
5. I would say some MD-11s are gonna be parked…no idea how many...I doubt ATL knows yet.
11-13-2022, 03:08 PM
#84
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Posts: 691
Originally Posted by Precontact
Wildcard to the above is a potential new airframe for international ops or perhaps more 747-400s. I doubt we will reduce the total number of airframes going forward.
11-13-2022, 04:22 PM
#85
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Originally Posted by FTv3
This is my belief as to what’s going on, fueled also by parts of China shutting down for Covid. Tome’s Better not bigger strategy might have turned out to be beneficial to us.
I’m going to start a UPS Hiring 2023 thread. Few Q’s for those with the data:
1. new 76 coming when?
2. 2 dash 8 options are simply options at this point, no confirmed rumors?
3. SIM building - expansion but is it new (additional sims) or a shuffle
4. No classes beyond Jan rumored or confirmed correct?
5. No confirmed or even strong rumors of any MDs being parked?
Thx all!
I’m going to start a UPS Hiring 2023 thread. Few Q’s for those with the data:
1. new 76 coming when?
2. 2 dash 8 options are simply options at this point, no confirmed rumors?
3. SIM building - expansion but is it new (additional sims) or a shuffle
4. No classes beyond Jan rumored or confirmed correct?
5. No confirmed or even strong rumors of any MDs being parked?
Thx all!
11-13-2022, 04:39 PM
#86
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Posts: 923
Originally Posted by jetlaggy
Just so we are clear…what number exactly are you predicting to be net negative?
11-13-2022, 04:57 PM
#87
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Posts: 7,530
UPS just added 5 GE-powered Lufthansa MDs in the last couple years.
You really think they're gonna DC8 that fleet?
Expectation Zero and all that, but there's absolutely zero cause to be talking a shrinking airline.
You really think they're gonna DC8 that fleet?
Expectation Zero and all that, but there's absolutely zero cause to be talking a shrinking airline.
11-13-2022, 05:03 PM
#88
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Originally Posted by C2078
Simple math. 42 MD’s to be disposed vs 27 airplanes on order, those are real numbers. Some may say only the Pratts will be parked, but I am not so sure based on how what I have heard. I will not put it past UPS to park an entire fleet in a short period of time like they have done in the past. I rather prepare/expect for the worst and be surprised by positive news rather than get hopes up. UPS is very unpredictable and secretive.
Ah I see…you expect the number of total airframes to decrease..I disagree but time will tell.
11-13-2022, 05:16 PM
#89
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Posts: 983
I agree, if for no other reason they wouldn’t want a competitor to get them. to
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
UPS just added 5 GE-powered Lufthansa MDs in the last couple years.
You really think they're gonna DC8 that fleet?
Expectation Zero and all that, but there's absolutely zero cause to be talking a shrinking airline.
You really think they're gonna DC8 that fleet?
Expectation Zero and all that, but there's absolutely zero cause to be talking a shrinking airline.
11-13-2022, 05:55 PM
#90
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Posts: 1,694
Originally Posted by C2078
Simple math. 42 MD’s to be disposed vs 27 airplanes on order, those are real numbers. Some may say only the Pratts will be parked, but I am not so sure based on how what I have heard. I will not put it past UPS to park an entire fleet in a short period of time like they have done in the past. I rather prepare/expect for the worst and be surprised by positive news rather than get hopes up. UPS is very unpredictable and secretive.
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