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10-09-2019, 04:08 AM
#21
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Joined APC: Feb 2019
Posts: 307
Originally Posted by WiscoAviator
There's a difference between being unfit to fly and needing medical attention and no one should make you decide between the two.
The intent is to cut down on abuse of sick calls but that's not the way to do it.
The intent is to cut down on abuse of sick calls but that's not the way to do it.
All the rest is controllable... Stress, alcohol, fatigue and emotion are up to you. Use your mandatory rest period to rest. Don’t drink. By the time you’re an adult you should be good enough at managing stress and emotion so that it doesn’t need to interfere with work.
Maybe I’m young and naive but I can’t imagine to many scenarios where I would be “unfit to fly” and also couldn’t get a doctors note
10-09-2019, 04:28 AM
#22
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: It's a plane and it's a seat
Posts: 950
Originally Posted by CPPfacts
Not true. Attendance, even “excused” is tracked.
10-09-2019, 06:29 AM
#23
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Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 841
Originally Posted by DontLookDown
If you think about the IMSAFE checklist the only things largely out of your control are “illness or medication.” You can get a doctors note.
All the rest is controllable... Stress, alcohol, fatigue and emotion are up to you. Use your mandatory rest period to rest. Don’t drink. By the time you’re an adult you should be good enough at managing stress and emotion so that it doesn’t need to interfere with work.
Maybe I’m young and naive but I can’t imagine to many scenarios where I would be “unfit to fly” and also couldn’t get a doctors note
All the rest is controllable... Stress, alcohol, fatigue and emotion are up to you. Use your mandatory rest period to rest. Don’t drink. By the time you’re an adult you should be good enough at managing stress and emotion so that it doesn’t need to interfere with work.
Maybe I’m young and naive but I can’t imagine to many scenarios where I would be “unfit to fly” and also couldn’t get a doctors note
10-09-2019, 12:23 PM
#24
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Posts: 591
Originally Posted by flynd94
It sure is and I had 3 excused absences in my look back yet, I made it to UA. Just be they are tracked doesn’t mean it will hold you back.
10-09-2019, 03:09 PM
#25
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: It's a plane and it's a seat
Posts: 950
Originally Posted by squib
If you “made it” to UAL it was not under the new program. It clearly states sick calls during specified times are a reason for denial.
10-10-2019, 06:42 AM
#26
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Posts: 186
They're not going to kick you out because you were legitimately sick. If you call in on a holiday, they typically make you get a doctor's note anyway. I think the issue comes in more when you get asked to provide a doctor's note and then can't provide it, which under the current CBA would be considered UNAV, which would probably disqualify you anyway.
And even if they did disqualify people for being sick, I wouldn't want to fly for a company like that anyway.
And even if they did disqualify people for being sick, I wouldn't want to fly for a company like that anyway.
10-10-2019, 09:33 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by dremaldent
They're not going to kick you out because you were legitimately sick. If you call in on a holiday, they typically make you get a doctor's note anyway. I think the issue comes in more when you get asked to provide a doctor's note and then can't provide it, which under the current CBA would be considered UNAV, which would probably disqualify you anyway.
And even if they did disqualify people for being sick, I wouldn't want to fly for a company like that anyway.
And even if they did disqualify people for being sick, I wouldn't want to fly for a company like that anyway.
I agree. If a company can’t accept the fact people get sick, then do you really want to work there ?
I’m a firm believer in if you’re sick, don’t fly. And if you want to fly, don’t get sick. Earlier this year I flew with someone who was sick with the flu. After day two, I had to call RR and get them off the trip because they were sick. And low and behold, they got me sick and I had to miss three weeks.
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10-11-2019, 09:40 AM
#28
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Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 186
If you send in an app to the Aviate program you'll get a "Becoming United" email within a few days. Seems to at least be a lot more streamlined than the old CPP. I've heard of one guy getting a Hogan, but I haven't been able to confirm if he meant the actual Hogan, or the Becoming United Assessment.
10-12-2019, 10:51 AM
#29
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Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 109
Originally Posted by dremaldent
They're not going to kick you out because you were legitimately sick. If you call in on a holiday, they typically make you get a doctor's note anyway. I think the issue comes in more when you get asked to provide a doctor's note and then can't provide it, which under the current CBA would be considered UNAV, which would probably disqualify you anyway.
And even if they did disqualify people for being sick, I wouldn't want to fly for a company like that anyway.
And even if they did disqualify people for being sick, I wouldn't want to fly for a company like that anyway.
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