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Old 08-07-2018, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Saltlife85 View Post
Please donít come here.. we donít need more yes men and ď happy to have a job/better than my ****ty regionalĒ types like yourself. OCCP can be negative at times but heís right about how bad things are here. Iím guessing your a regional guy (no issues there I was one to) or low end cargo outfit and think AS is a great place to work.. itís not.
Not a yes man. Anybody who has ever worked with me will tell you that. I've just worked at a number of jobs in a career that so far spans over 22 years - some better, some worse - so I know when I've got it good and when I don't. I know people at Alaska. I know what's going on there. I know people are unhappy with the situation. And I know that the problems you have are not the worst thing anyone is facing.
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:06 AM
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While some people have left here for real legacy airlines...We also have guys at Ala5ka leaving for regional airlines, Emirates, and Kalitta. If that doesnít scream to you to stay away from this miserable place then I donít know what will.
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:34 AM
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Not a yes man. Anybody who has ever worked with me will tell you that. I've just worked at a number of jobs in a career that so far spans over 22 years - some better, some worse - so I know when I've got it good and when I don't. I know people at Alaska. I know what's going on there. I know people are unhappy with the situation. And I know that the problems you have are not the worst thing anyone is facing.
I used to fly with people like you at my last regional, so much kool-aide that their teeth floated. Banged the company drum, earned a 1% pay raise in the middle of the greatest pilot shortage of our generation because they thought they were doing better than Honduran banana sellers. Do everyone outside of your company a favor and stay where you are, weíd like to keep at least what we have.
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:36 AM
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While some people have left here for real legacy airlines...We also have guys at Ala5ka leaving for regional airlines, Emirates, and Kalitta. If that doesn’t scream to you to stay away from this miserable place then I don’t know what will.
BS. Let's be real, you'd have to be an idiot to leave AS for a regional TODAY. They're all getting worked to the bone. If you got hired by AS, you don't need AA flow to get on with another major if that's your goal. Only way anyone would do that is if divorce was the only other option. I know one guy who had to quit a legacy to go back to SKW because his wife wanted to live in a certain non-commutable SKW base (her family was there, they had three kids in school, and she's a high-end specialty MD making ludicrous bank. And she's hot. I would have quit too.).

EK and Connie, that's really a lifestyle choice. Some guys like the idea of being gone for three weeks at a pop and enjoying exotic locals through the fog of jetlag tempered with booze.
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Old 08-07-2018, 08:42 AM
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Not a yes man. Anybody who has ever worked with me will tell you that. I've just worked at a number of jobs in a career that so far spans over 22 years - some better, some worse - so I know when I've got it good and when I don't. I know people at Alaska. I know what's going on there. I know people are unhappy with the situation. And I know that the problems you have are not the worst thing anyone is facing.
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I used to fly with people like you at my last regional, so much kool-aide that their teeth floated. Banged the company drum, earned a 1% pay raise in the middle of the greatest pilot shortage of our generation because they thought they were doing better than Honduran banana sellers. Do everyone outside of your company a favor and stay where you are, weíd like to keep at least what we have.

And this, right here, is the typical overreaction we see on this board time and again.
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice View Post
Lol!! Some of you have lost touch with reality.

First world problems.

Yea, it can and should be better, but to act as if itís a slave ship? Lol!

Talk to people down in Honduras who make in a year what you make in a day, all while working MUCH harder than you ever will.

Always try to better your lot, but to say or imply your job is awful is almost the definition of disingenuous to those around the world who REALLY work for damn near nothing.

However, I expect nothing less from OCCP, one of the most miserable, negative people Iíve ever seen on this forum.

Time to quit, OCCP. Youíre gonna die young if you donít.
LOL! Alaska.... itís better than working in Honduras!

I donít think so. Alaska is a ďlegacyĒ and I do use quotes around that word. As such, it should only be compared to other legacy carriers in terms of pay, QOL, scheduling, and general career itself. As it stands we lag far behind the other big 6 carriers. JetBlue with their new contract are many strides ahead of us, and that was their 1st ALPA contract whereas AS has been around 84 yrs.
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:18 AM
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BS. Let's be real, you'd have to be an idiot to leave AS for a regional TODAY. They're all getting worked to the bone. If you got hired by AS, you don't need AA flow to get on with another major if that's your goal. Only way anyone would do that is if divorce was the only other option. I know one guy who had to quit a legacy to go back to SKW because his wife wanted to live in a certain non-commutable SKW base (her family was there, they had three kids in school, and she's a high-end specialty MD making ludicrous bank. And she's hot. I would have quit too.).

EK and Connie, that's really a lifestyle choice. Some guys like the idea of being gone for three weeks at a pop and enjoying exotic locals through the fog of jetlag tempered with booze.
Had a guy with less than 12 mos on property go to Envoy as DEC. I think at Envoy first year CA with the bonuses they are advertising $113k. Maybe this guy has zero TPIC and his goal is to get to a real legacy airline. If so, there is no upgrade here for junior guys. You canít blame a guy for trying to better his resume.
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:31 AM
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LOL! Alaska.... itís better than working in Honduras!

I donít think so. Alaska is a ďlegacyĒ and I do use quotes around that word. As such, it should only be compared to other legacy carriers in terms of pay, QOL, scheduling, and general career itself. As it stands we lag far behind the other big 6 carriers. JetBlue with their new contract are many strides ahead of us, and that was their 1st ALPA contract whereas AS has been around 84 yrs.
Right on, Shy. You make valid points, all while remaining calm and not going over the top with how awful it is to work there, unlike the frequently over the top posts some continually make about the seeming sweatshop conditions.
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Old 08-07-2018, 10:10 AM
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Then we have a couple idiots I suppose because there are several who left for regionals.. as one person above left for DEC envoy captain.. it speaks volumes about Alaska.

For the record the pilot who left for Envoy is a great person. He saw how terrible this new more to love airline is managed and the immediate resulting downslide of QOL and made a move.
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BS. Let's be real, you'd have to be an idiot to leave AS for a regional TODAY. They're all getting worked to the bone. If you got hired by AS, you don't need AA flow to get on with another major if that's your goal. Only way anyonewould do that is if divorce was the only other option. I know one guy who had to quit a legacy to go back to SKW because his wife wanted to live in a certain non-commutable SKW base (her family was there, they had three kids in school, and she's a high-end specialty MD making ludicrous bank. And she's hot. I would have quit too.).

EK and Connie, that's really a lifestyle choice. Some guys like the idea of being gone for three weeks at a pop and enjoying exotic locals through the fog of jetlag tempered with booze.

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Old 08-07-2018, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by noodle View Post
??? Is there a new pay scale? Isn't that 20-30k higher than 80hr/mo?
I am at 126/hr right now. I went from 87 to 126. I meant that I am flying 80 hours a month, not making 80 an hour.
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