Speed Pilot

The internal sell job from the Error Group is strong. They also didn’t believe all of the online negativity could possibly be real. They have since been educated.

Cruz5350

I have a neighbor at Kalitta, seems very happy to be gone from the regionals. We never discuss specifics but he certainly makes more than me but it’s not $100k more, as far as days off we haven’t spoken to much about it but I know he gets some really long stretches of time on and off. it’s really hard to complain considering I haven’t touched an Alaska plane since Sept and prior to that was last March.

RNO Flyer

Realistically, for someone hired in the next year how long would they be looking at for an upgrade? The numbers for mandatory retirements on APC between now and 2044 only add up to a little over 1000, so something's off there.

av8or

the problem is….. unlike at nearly every other airline our path forward is completely ambiguous. Even by those that are firmly planted moss head Alaskalites…. None of us have any idea the plan…. And for the few that might, that is so completely subjective to a titanic shift in a new direction at the drop of a hat, that “the plan” today can be a 180 degree opposite of “the plan” tomorrow. When I was hired the plan was, “growth through acquisition of VA, new JFK base, new JFK pax lounge, transcons from LAX to JFK and BOS, “Most West Coast”, hiring 450 in 2018, 5 years to Cpt.”

Now the plan is mostly “Protect SEA, retreat from transcons, try and hold some market share in Hawaii against the onslaught of SWA, replace fleet with Max’s, increase frequency to seasonal tourist destinations, provide feed for American and OneWorld. Capt in prob 6-7”

I enjoy the job. I enjoy the layovers. I enjoy the crews and coworkers. Its prob a stable career investment, but, it most like will also yield lower career dividends that many of our competitors by nearly every metric.

NewGuy01

My 10 year plan went to 15 when we abandoned 15% of our mainline fleet this year.

Hoping for a change in the future but I’m currently discussing leaving with my network and weighing the pros a cons.


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OTZeagle1

I read this stuff and have to laugh. I honestly think some of you think you are detouring people from applying, you are going to single handedly shut down the pipeline. Just like none of you are going to leave, I know, I know, you are talking to your net works🤔 realIy weighing all of your options. In 5 years, all of you will still be here, still be unhappy, still whining. I think many of you think, by doing this Alaska will end up with no one willing to come to class, and you will then finally get your windfall, whatever that may be. Guys, really? We are having trouble finding qualified applicants, really, you believe that. We are swamped with applications, and none of you guys are leaving, grow up! It really is embarrassing. We will get a new contract, 12-18 mos. If you live on the west coast, especially in one of our bases, this will be a good gig. If you live on the East coast or Midwest, with no desire to move, why would you apply here🤔, unless maybe you have exhausted DA, AA, UA, JB, FX, SW, UP…

Rangerover

Still sticking to your guns on SFO closing?

airb320

it’s easy math, you have an 89+ year old airline that has less than 210 mainline jets (data from April 2021). and just confirmed in their last call (June 2021) that they like to grow Regional Jets more (not flown by Pilots on the AS seniority list).
That should tell you everything you need to know! This is NOT a growth airline, simple!

ShyGuy

Leave Alaska for a regional? That would be like the guys who bought Dogecoin at 73 cents. Ouch!

NewGuy01

Why would you ask a yes man, management stooge that?

The puzzle palace will probably close SFO to step over dollars and save a couple pennies. Then reopen it at even greater expense. And somehow it will be even more miserable than before for front line employees.

That’s how things work here. Lost opportunities and poor decisions.

Also since the Arctic Chicken himself is so interested in my posts I’ve helped 2 friends with their apps here after giving them my impression of what it’s like to work here. I don’t think I’ll make a single dent in the number of apps in the pipeline. I’m simply trying to help you all understand what it’s like to work here.

Interestingly enough both of my buddies wound up at a major: United and FedEx. They are both much better off. Poetic justice for the guy at FedEx. He was kicked to the curb by this merciless management group before he started class at AS due to pandemic panic and the management group’s inability to do the right thing. One of our corporate values. This was after he gave notice at his regional. It was a rough time but he’s much better off now.

I’ve got a call with my buddy at United tomorrow to ask some serious questions about leaving. After that I’ll ping the senior contacts there if I decide to leave.

Or you guys can listen to the yes man who heckled the jr pilots about being furloughed. Your call…


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