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02-09-2022 | 02:28 PM
#891
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I'm sure American can find additional credit if needed, but it looks like Covid restrictions are getting lifted in most of the world so it should be a very profitable summer.
02-09-2022 | 03:16 PM
#893
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Feb 8 (Reuters) - Boeing Co (BA.N) said on Tuesday it delivered 32 aircraft in January as its sidelined 787 Dreamliner program continued to weigh on the planemaker's ability to capitalize on a recovery in air travel.
The company handed over 27 737 MAX jets in January and three widebody aircraft, including a 777 freighter, Boeing said in its closely watched monthly report.
Of the 27 MAX deliveries, seven were to Irish budget carrier Ryanair (RYA.I), while China Eastern Airlines (600115.SS) took delivery of one 777 freighter.
The 737 MAX and the 787 Dreamliner are crucial to Boeing's ability to recover from the pandemic and catch up with Airbus (AIR.PA), having lost out on the delivery race to its European rival for the third consecutive year. read more
After slashing production mainly due to the pandemic, planemakers are seeing more demand for medium-haul passenger jets and freighters, and are rushing to ramp up production.
However, snags in Dreamliner production have proved costly for Boeing, with the company incurring $4.5 billion in charges in the fourth quarter and paying customers penalties for pushing back deliveries. read more
The company handed over 27 737 MAX jets in January and three widebody aircraft, including a 777 freighter, Boeing said in its closely watched monthly report.
Of the 27 MAX deliveries, seven were to Irish budget carrier Ryanair (RYA.I), while China Eastern Airlines (600115.SS) took delivery of one 777 freighter.
=13pxBoeing=13px handed over=13px 38 jets in December and 34 in November.
The fewer January deliveries reflect a seasonal dip. Boeing delivered 26 aircraft in the same period a year ago. read moreThe 737 MAX and the 787 Dreamliner are crucial to Boeing's ability to recover from the pandemic and catch up with Airbus (AIR.PA), having lost out on the delivery race to its European rival for the third consecutive year. read more
After slashing production mainly due to the pandemic, planemakers are seeing more demand for medium-haul passenger jets and freighters, and are rushing to ramp up production.
However, snags in Dreamliner production have proved costly for Boeing, with the company incurring $4.5 billion in charges in the fourth quarter and paying customers penalties for pushing back deliveries. read more
02-09-2022 | 03:19 PM
#894
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Technical services have started preparing for delivery of the aircraft that have been approved by the FAA in partnership with Boeing and Tulsa. Chip already announced it as well.
02-09-2022 | 03:31 PM
#895
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02-09-2022 | 04:55 PM
#896
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02-09-2022 | 06:01 PM
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You are conveniently avoiding answering the question or dealing with the real issue, which was fleet efficiency. The posting touted narrowbody fleet efficiency, and while I will concede you aren’t in any way responsible for Boeings 737 and 787 problems, that is currently a side issue.
Right now F9 has over 70% NEOs:
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Spirit had these numbers as of Sep 2021 and has added NEOs since and will add 24 more this year.
As NK retires 319s and adds 320/321 NEOs their percentage of newer and more fuel efficient aircraft will continue to rise.
The original assertion was that AA had a newer and more fuel efficient NB fleet than anybody else. That statement is demonstrably not true. I NEVER MADE the straw man argument that AA “doesn’t or won’t have a fuel efficient fleet,” merely that their were others with newer and more fuel efficient fleets. AA holds no real advantage over others in this regard.
Right now F9 has over 70% NEOs:
httSpirit had these numbers as of Sep 2021 and has added NEOs since and will add 24 more this year.
As NK retires 319s and adds 320/321 NEOs their percentage of newer and more fuel efficient aircraft will continue to rise.
The original assertion was that AA had a newer and more fuel efficient NB fleet than anybody else. That statement is demonstrably not true. I NEVER MADE the straw man argument that AA “doesn’t or won’t have a fuel efficient fleet,” merely that their were others with newer and more fuel efficient fleets. AA holds no real advantage over others in this regard.
02-10-2022 | 06:13 AM
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He and I are just observing trends and commenting on them.
I've told regional pilots a few years ago that the regional model would be dead in the not too distant future. Assuming no major economic changes or another flareup of Covid, 12 months from now, regionals will be near extinct and ULCCs will be shrinking.
While it took some time for regionals to shrink, I would expect the ULCC shrinkage to be accelerated.
But I'm only looking at the trends and forecasting based on current trends. It's possible things could change, but I don't see anything on the horizon that will change the trajectory.
Revisit this subject at the end of the summer. I'll be curious to see how worn out you are - it'll be profitable for you, but it'll be a brutal summer.
I've told regional pilots a few years ago that the regional model would be dead in the not too distant future. Assuming no major economic changes or another flareup of Covid, 12 months from now, regionals will be near extinct and ULCCs will be shrinking.
While it took some time for regionals to shrink, I would expect the ULCC shrinkage to be accelerated.
But I'm only looking at the trends and forecasting based on current trends. It's possible things could change, but I don't see anything on the horizon that will change the trajectory.
Revisit this subject at the end of the summer. I'll be curious to see how worn out you are - it'll be profitable for you, but it'll be a brutal summer.
The regionals will always have a necessary place in the industry. There are select markets where it is economically unfeasible to operate narrow body aircraft and fulfill capacity.
As much as many of us would like to see a return of the '70s and '80s where main line carriers operate to smaller domestic markets, it just isn't in the economic feasibility of most carriers. What I do see happening is a continued market of ejets but likely with reduced frequency.
I can tell you in our market a metropolis of about 200,000 people, we used to have over 15 flights per day to Chicago O'Hare by various carriers. That is now been reduced to about seven flights per day and has held at that capacity for the last 7 to 8 years.
Also regional operators like Skywest Airlines and Mesa can purchase older equipment at very affordable prices and have the infrastructure to operate them cheaply. It will be interesting to see how the industry changes over the next 5 to 6 years but I don't foresee the regional airline model vanishing.
02-10-2022 | 07:09 AM
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The regionals will always have a necessary place in the industry. There are select markets where it is economically unfeasible to operate narrow body aircraft and fulfill capacity.
As much as many of us would like to see a return of the '70s and '80s where main line carriers operate to smaller domestic markets, it just isn't in the economic feasibility of most carriers. What I do see happening is a continued market of ejets but likely with reduced frequency.
I can tell you in our market a metropolis of about 200,000 people, we used to have over 15 flights per day to Chicago O'Hare by various carriers. That is now been reduced to about seven flights per day and has held at that capacity for the last 7 to 8 years.
Also regional operators like Skywest Airlines and Mesa can purchase older equipment at very affordable prices and have the infrastructure to operate them cheaply. It will be interesting to see how the industry changes over the next 5 to 6 years but I don't foresee the regional airline model vanishing.
As much as many of us would like to see a return of the '70s and '80s where main line carriers operate to smaller domestic markets, it just isn't in the economic feasibility of most carriers. What I do see happening is a continued market of ejets but likely with reduced frequency.
I can tell you in our market a metropolis of about 200,000 people, we used to have over 15 flights per day to Chicago O'Hare by various carriers. That is now been reduced to about seven flights per day and has held at that capacity for the last 7 to 8 years.
Also regional operators like Skywest Airlines and Mesa can purchase older equipment at very affordable prices and have the infrastructure to operate them cheaply. It will be interesting to see how the industry changes over the next 5 to 6 years but I don't foresee the regional airline model vanishing.
02-10-2022 | 07:30 AM
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It seems every carrier I've worked for has been able to staff their operation regardless of what the rumors or hiring departments sell.
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