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Old 01-12-2015, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by AQPABC View Post
Those of us currently in training had a break over the Christmas holiday. Otherwise, ground school is 6 days a week (Mon-Sat.) during FTDs and Sims your schedule is all over the place. One on one off, some guys have a stretch of four off, etc. if you wanted to try to go home, you'd be on your own to get back and forth.
Keep in mind that even in training, the schedule changes. So, one's 4 days off can quickly turn to one.
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Old 01-12-2015, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Radials Rule View Post
Keep in mind that even in training, the schedule changes. So, one's 4 days off can quickly turn to one.
Can they change your schedule while you are already home on your day 2 of 4 scheduled days off and ask you to be in training and cancel your original off day 3 and 4?
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Old 01-12-2015, 07:17 AM
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Can they change your schedule while you are already home on your day 2 of 4 scheduled days off and ask you to be in training and cancel your original off day 3 and 4?
Yes. I enjoy my job but the hardest part was initial training. I would plan to stay because scheduling plans change often. You could perhaps ask the training scheduler if you had a 4-day weekend but I would be trying to get back 2 days early just in case, they don't take kindly to not making it. I would venture to say it's unlikely you will be able to go home at all unless you live pretty close. Also no interline fares available until you're there for 6 months so plan to buy a ticket for your spouse if you want them to visit. On that note having them visit can also be tough because about the time you start to miss them, things get pretty busy. Again, not saying any of these things can't work out at all but just be very cautious about how you go about them as a brand new hire. I agree fully that it's not optimal but you need to plan for the possibility of being away for 9-10 weeks.
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Old 01-12-2015, 10:36 AM
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FYI. Many people around here are terrified of jump seating so you will hear the never go home line alot. If you are a veteran of the commuting life it probably will be doable. You are not on reserve, but you are on probation so tread lightly. No one is going to call you at 6am and demand that you are in class or the sim today and the only message I ever got was a question if I can. ID's are out the first week and CASS is usually about the same time. YMMV.
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Old 01-12-2015, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BGD011 View Post
When do you get your Atlas badge and become active in CASS?
When can you signup your family for ZED tickets and possibly flying them to MIA to visit?
You get your badge so some time in the first week. Cass takes a couple of weeks. Like some said your schedule can and will change frequently. You and your family are eligible for the ZED fares after 6 months.
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Old 01-12-2015, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BGD011 View Post
Can they change your schedule while you are already home on your day 2 of 4 scheduled days off and ask you to be in training and cancel your original off day 3 and 4?
The mantra in training has always been: if you're flexible, you're too rigid. You need to be fluid.

Not unheard of to climb into the sim at midnight, start programming the FMC, and get booted to accommodate some other crew. With how busy the training center is going to be, you'll need to roll with the punches.
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Old 01-12-2015, 07:46 PM
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So lets talk pay. Realistically, what pay increase can we expect on this next contract??? We dont have any comparables anymore, except for Kalita.
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Old 01-12-2015, 07:52 PM
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So lets talk pay. Realistically, what pay increase can we expect on this next contract??? We dont have any comparables anymore, except for Kalita.
FDX upcoming contract rates plus 40% i think is a pretty conservative gimmie
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Old 01-12-2015, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Cabochu View Post
So lets talk pay. Realistically, what pay increase can we expect on this next contract??? We dont have any comparables anymore, except for Kalita.
It may be a while before that increase happens. Personally I think management would be attempting to give us some of that now to slow/prevent attrition if paying us fairly were in their business model. Solidarity is going to be key and it might take a while in my opinion. I do know that we're a great group of intelligent pilots who are up to the task.
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Old 01-12-2015, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by C5nwhaleguy View Post
FDX upcoming contract rates plus 40% i think is a pretty conservative gimmie
You are completely right , we should go for something like that (fedex deal) and fight for, we should not let management play with us, offering petty cash. We the pilot group should stick together and fight for what we really want and play smarter ( an injury to one is an injury to all) The only force that can break tyrannical rule is the one big union of all the workers (the pilot group). remember A victory for one is also a victory for all.
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