No they do not get the same benefits. John Deitrch and Bill Flynn discussed during the last employee conference call that SA will remain on their own benefit package until further notice.

 

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Anyone offered a class date? Any classes scheduled for January?

 

YES AND YES!!!!!!
Talked with KF, in HR, this morning!

Asked if I would like to accept a December 22nd B777
Class on the Southern Air Side Of the House, and also asked
If I would prefer a B747 Class in Jan. 2017, B767 Class in February
2017, or a B747 Class in March 2017.

I indicated that I preferred the B747 Class in January 2017!

So, I'll see in the next 2 weeks what my class assignment
Will be!

😉💯👍🏾

 

Thank you for not accepting the Southern position.

 

Interview date: 09/28

Got offered the same thing. January 30 B747, Feb 6 B767. I took the Feb 6 B767. She said she would call in January to make it official and that it was too early right now.

 

Yeah... For a delay of a couple of weeks I'd go Atlas 747. Keep in mind that there is zero movement on our new contract and with management's posturing I wouldn't expect a new contract for probably 3-5 years. After that time frame it may be merged anyways and you'll be long gone from Atlas anyways. I'd expect that the difference in pay and retirement between Southern and Atlas would be tens of thousands if not more.

 

I was one of the 09/28 interview and no phone call here yet. Still hoping though

 

1) Is the food poisoning /catering stories still true?
2) I want to calculate expected first and second year pay, as well as 5 & 10 year. I know it's "monthly hours times pay rate for aircraft type times 12 months" but my question is should new hires expect to the guaranteed 62 hours per month or a lot more? (I just noticed the main atlas page says to expect 78 hours a month, that's a big difference in yearly pay.)
3) Are there 12 or 13 bid periods a year? (28 day bid periods or monthly bid periods?)

I've never worked 121, so a lot of this is new to me.

 

The food poisoning stories are 100% true. The food poisoning out of Asia has been so bad that I tell new guys to show up fed. Out of Chicago we've found pubic hair in our food multiple times this year. Atlas simply buys the cheapest garbage they can find everywhere.

On first year pay you'll receive $1600 a month plus $1500 a month per diem for the first two months while you're in training. Then you'll get $1600 a month sitting at home waiting on OE which will be very backed up next year. So months 3 and 4 you'll get $1600 a month. Then you'll get 50 hours a month times $79 an hour until you finish OE. Once off OE you'll probably be able to average 72 hours a month of pay credits plus per diem. That's first year.

Going forward I'd count on rates that are published online times 72 hours a month. That's what I average. Sometimes it's more or less but that's the average. Looking at Atlas going forward, I think if you're hired in the first 6 months of 2017 you'll be a 767 Captain in 5 years (maybe less if it's at the very beginning) and a 747 Captain in 10 (maybe longer...). If you're hired in the 2nd half of 2017 I think you can count on more like 8 years on the 767 and 15 years on the 747. Atlas is likely going to need an additional 500 pilots on our list next year to accommodate Amazon. That may mean 700 total spots for any new flying, Amazon, retirements, and attrition (which is supposed to hit a new record next year). Getting hired in the 2nd half of the year will mean that you missed the boat in my humble opinion.

Atlas has 12 bid periods. Our contract is that bad - there's nothing you don't know about that makes it good.