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Old 06-12-2016, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Crispy6 View Post
I had 12,080 TT 8,100 jet with a Lear Jet type rating when I was asked to attend ground school for the 76. The phone interview is the toughest part about getting hired. "TMAAT you went above and beyond to help a customer?" Conflict with a fellow employee? It really helps to think about specific instances and write them down ahead of time. Anyway went out to Tulsa for four weeks of ground school which was intensive: six days a week/10 hours a day. ALL of your systems training is CBT which I didn't mind. We spent an inordinate amount of time on OAI specific memory items which they want you to memorize VERY precisely. We really should have taken the Oral exam before we left Tulsa and I believe they were going to change that. We took a systems test and if that went well we were off to the sims in Atlanta. Fixed Base is first. We had a very knowledgeable instructor but the Fixed Base secessions were grueling evaluations and decidedly not instruction. Luck if the draw on that. Get through fixed base and it's off to full flight. OAI maintains very high standards. You should have your flows, procedures, and memory Items down pat before you step in to the fixed base sim really. I struggled to meet the standards in full flight and reieved extra training. I passed the type rating and felt like I was home free. The next night I struggled during the IP check from the right seat and I was given the option to resign. I had only flown from the left seat during all of my training so yea; I was behind when flying from the other seat. I was shocked that they would bring me along that far to cut me lose at that stage of training I wasn't wildly outside of ATP standards on maneuvers. It was my first experience flying glass and flying part 121. It was an intense experience and I learned a great deal. I thought the pilot group was great and I was really excited to work hard and get that Boeing Type Rating! im back to flying Lears now but I like to think I could reapply to OAI at some point in the future and do the Long haul stuff. Any thoughts from OAI folks?
How long ago was this?

Yeah it seems strange to cut you loose at that point. Also strange to not be flying from the right seat ever.
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Old 06-12-2016, 01:50 PM
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I mean I assume you had a sim partner and would spend half the time in the other seat. You'll have to elaborate because what you are saying doesn't make sense. What is IP?
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Old 06-12-2016, 04:27 PM
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I mean I assume you had a sim partner and would spend half the time in the other seat. You'll have to elaborate because what you are saying doesn't make sense. What is IP?
During initial, you have to pass the type ride, then you do your PC check in the right seat, this is due to the FAA wanting you to pass a check in the seat you will be occupying. After those two rides are done (on different nights), you do your Loft, Cat III training. Hope that helps.
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Old 06-12-2016, 04:33 PM
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In reality you only need to do a couple maneuvers from the left seat and the rest in the right seat for the type/PC in one ride. I think there is more to this story. No reason to cut someone loose after they pass the type ride but have a bad day the next. So either Omni is completely irrational after investing time in this guy, or there is more to the story, or the story is BS.
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Old 06-12-2016, 05:09 PM
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OAI wants you to get the type first and then show them instrument proficiency from the right seat. I did swing the gear in the right seat during my sin partners sessions but I didn't do the maneuvers from the right seat. The rational provided from the traing Dept was: "We don't fly much so you're as proficient in the sim as you're going to be after your initial type; not when you come back for recurrent in six months." I kept a positive attitude and was just happy to be there. I explained that I had not flown the maneuvers from the right seat and I would just like to take the Instrument Proficiency Check again and call the previous ride my training. No Dice. The decision was made by the bean counters back in Tulsa.
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Old 06-12-2016, 05:09 PM
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Old 06-12-2016, 05:17 PM
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Omni is different. You fly from the left and get your type but you're not officially an employee until you take a IPC from the right seat. Not rational at all from my perspective. I really did keep a good attitude and the instructors ONLY want you to succeed. I felt they were tighter on the standards on the IPC. Yea so now I've got the type and have never touched the airplane. It's a bummer.
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Old 06-12-2016, 05:36 PM
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tough break, makes no sense to me at all. Sounds like a good reason to stay the hell away from the place honestly. Anybody can have a tough day in the sim, and the role of examiner is to look at the big picture, not reasons to bust you.
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Old 06-13-2016, 10:30 AM
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Yea it's perplexing and I think you're right. Ah well, learn from it and press on. Better QOL and compensation with my new gig. Best of luck to you!
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Old 06-14-2016, 10:43 AM
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[QUOTE=desertdog71;2144065]tough break, makes no sense to me at all. Sounds like a good reason to stay the hell away from the place honestly. Anybody can have a tough day in the sim, and the role of examiner is to look at the big picture, not reasons to bust you.[/QUOTE

The truth is he was the weakest in his class at every phase and struggled from ground school to full flight sim.

Due to his ineptitude and blatant well documented deficiencies he received more than the allotted additional training before he busted his F/O PC.

He wasn't even close on his F/O PC!

The F/O PC is usually a non event for the AVERAGE PILOT! Nobody wanted him to fail but he failed himself!

He was a distraction to his training partner who got through with no issues!

This guy is a tool for posting his version of reality but further illustrative of his judgment.

His performance was far from indicative of a 12,000 ATP and Lear Captain!

"But I don't do holding !"

I'm "LIFEFLIGHT'

What a joke!
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