Omni Air
#1671
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From: Gucci Jet Left
I had a phone interview about two weeks ago. Either I didn't say the right things, or they're busy doing other things. My feeling when we hung up was that it went rather well. I feel I did a good job on the TMAAT questions and typical HR questions. If I don't hear anything by the end of next week, I'll assume that I didn't get the "good job." It was a good opportunity and if nothing comes of it, good practice.
I have a little over 3000tt, 750tpic, atp, small biz jet type, and some ocean crossing experience.
Good luck to everyone.
I have a little over 3000tt, 750tpic, atp, small biz jet type, and some ocean crossing experience.
Good luck to everyone.
I'm just seeing what else is out there now. The pay sucks, seems a few folks aren't too happy there. It would be a stop over point at best as things are now, get some Int'l ops under your belt and head on down the road. They could make it more attractive to stay but I doubt it.
#1672
I had 12,080 TT 8,100 jet with a Lear Jet type rating when I was asked to attend ground school for the 76. The phone interview is the toughest part about getting hired. "TMAAT you went above and beyond to help a customer?" Conflict with a fellow employee? It really helps to think about specific instances and write them down ahead of time. Anyway went out to Tulsa for four weeks of ground school which was intensive: six days a week/10 hours a day. ALL of your systems training is CBT which I didn't mind. We spent an inordinate amount of time on OAI specific memory items which they want you to memorize VERY precisely. We really should have taken the Oral exam before we left Tulsa and I believe they were going to change that. We took a systems test and if that went well we were off to the sims in Atlanta. Fixed Base is first. We had a very knowledgeable instructor but the Fixed Base secessions were grueling evaluations and decidedly not instruction. Luck if the draw on that. Get through fixed base and it's off to full flight. OAI maintains very high standards. You should have your flows, procedures, and memory Items down pat before you step in to the fixed base sim really. I struggled to meet the standards in full flight and reieved extra training. I passed the type rating and felt like I was home free. The next night I struggled during the IP check from the right seat and I was given the option to resign. I had only flown from the left seat during all of my training so yea; I was behind when flying from the other seat. I was shocked that they would bring me along that far to cut me lose at that stage of training I wasn't wildly outside of ATP standards on maneuvers. It was my first experience flying glass and flying part 121. It was an intense experience and I learned a great deal. I thought the pilot group was great and I was really excited to work hard and get that Boeing Type Rating! im back to flying Lears now but I like to think I could reapply to OAI at some point in the future and do the Long haul stuff. Any thoughts from OAI folks?
#1673
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From: Gucci Jet Left
I had 12,080 TT 8,100 jet with a Lear Jet type rating when I was asked to attend ground school for the 76. The phone interview is the toughest part about getting hired. "TMAAT you went above and beyond to help a customer?" Conflict with a fellow employee? It really helps to think about specific instances and write them down ahead of time. Anyway went out to Tulsa for four weeks of ground school which was intensive: six days a week/10 hours a day. ALL of your systems training is CBT which I didn't mind. We spent an inordinate amount of time on OAI specific memory items which they want you to memorize VERY precisely. We really should have taken the Oral exam before we left Tulsa and I believe they were going to change that. We took a systems test and if that went well we were off to the sims in Atlanta. Fixed Base is first. We had a very knowledgeable instructor but the Fixed Base secessions were grueling evaluations and decidedly not instruction. Luck if the draw on that. Get through fixed base and it's off to full flight. OAI maintains very high standards. You should have your flows, procedures, and memory Items down pat before you step in to the fixed base sim really. I struggled to meet the standards in full flight and reieved extra training. I passed the type rating and felt like I was home free. The next night I struggled during the IP check from the right seat and I was given the option to resign. I had only flown from the left seat during all of my training so yea; I was behind when flying from the other seat. I was shocked that they would bring me along that far to cut me lose at that stage of training I wasn't wildly outside of ATP standards on maneuvers. It was my first experience flying glass and flying part 121. It was an intense experience and I learned a great deal. I thought the pilot group was great and I was really excited to work hard and get that Boeing Type Rating! im back to flying Lears now but I like to think I could reapply to OAI at some point in the future and do the Long haul stuff. Any thoughts from OAI folks?
Yeah it seems strange to cut you loose at that point. Also strange to not be flying from the right seat ever.
#1675
During initial, you have to pass the type ride, then you do your PC check in the right seat, this is due to the FAA wanting you to pass a check in the seat you will be occupying. After those two rides are done (on different nights), you do your Loft, Cat III training. Hope that helps.
#1676
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From: Gucci Jet Left
In reality you only need to do a couple maneuvers from the left seat and the rest in the right seat for the type/PC in one ride. I think there is more to this story. No reason to cut someone loose after they pass the type ride but have a bad day the next. So either Omni is completely irrational after investing time in this guy, or there is more to the story, or the story is BS.
#1677
OAI wants you to get the type first and then show them instrument proficiency from the right seat. I did swing the gear in the right seat during my sin partners sessions but I didn't do the maneuvers from the right seat. The rational provided from the traing Dept was: "We don't fly much so you're as proficient in the sim as you're going to be after your initial type; not when you come back for recurrent in six months." I kept a positive attitude and was just happy to be there. I explained that I had not flown the maneuvers from the right seat and I would just like to take the Instrument Proficiency Check again and call the previous ride my training. No Dice. The decision was made by the bean counters back in Tulsa.
#1679
Omni is different. You fly from the left and get your type but you're not officially an employee until you take a IPC from the right seat. Not rational at all from my perspective. I really did keep a good attitude and the instructors ONLY want you to succeed. I felt they were tighter on the standards on the IPC. Yea so now I've got the type and have never touched the airplane. It's a bummer.
#1680
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From: Gucci Jet Left
tough break, makes no sense to me at all. Sounds like a good reason to stay the hell away from the place honestly. Anybody can have a tough day in the sim, and the role of examiner is to look at the big picture, not reasons to bust you.
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