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04-01-2018, 12:11 PM
#2121
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Originally Posted by fraannk
Thing is, right now there is no need to look at anything over 3 year FO pay. The most junior captain was hired in October of 2014. So, you need to look at 4 year captain pay instead. Try that at a legacy carrier.
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04-01-2018, 12:29 PM
#2122
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Originally Posted by be76flyer
Delta, AA and Fedex all have under 2 year upgrade.
04-01-2018, 01:31 PM
#2123
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Originally Posted by be76flyer
Delta, AA and Fedex all have under 2 year upgrade.
Delta and FedEx are discussed on a different section. Go over there and see how happy those guys are.
04-01-2018, 01:49 PM
#2124
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Originally Posted by Dutch80
Good for them. Now who gives a rat’s &$@ ??
Delta and FedEx are discussed on a different section. Go over there and see how happy those guys are.
Delta and FedEx are discussed on a different section. Go over there and see how happy those guys are.
04-01-2018, 02:19 PM
#2125
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Originally Posted by RyeMex
Actually, I think that this is pertinent to the conversation. Fraannk seemed to be saying that the "quick upgrades" of about 4 years is one of the perks to consider when it comes to looking at Omni. So, understanding that upgrades faster than that are possible throughout the industry at this point is pertinent to the discussion.
Anyone who can’t make the distinction doesn’t deserve to upgrade in 20 years, let alone 2.
04-01-2018, 02:28 PM
#2126
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Originally Posted by Dutch80
Well, I can’t speak for Fraannk, or divine what he “seems to be saying,” but comparing Omni to Delta when making a career choice is like comparing a frog to a donkey. Two completely different animals.
Anyone who can’t make the distinction doesn’t deserve to upgrade in 20 years, let alone 2.
Anyone who can’t make the distinction doesn’t deserve to upgrade in 20 years, let alone 2.
04-01-2018, 04:45 PM
#2127
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If and it's a big IF. The 2 to 3 year upgrade at Omni is only possible with attrition. Looking at economic indicators, I do not see any growth in the supplemental sector that would bring an increase in aircraft numbers at Omni. Omni doesn't bid on money losing programs that Swift and Dynamic usually do. Even Atlas is getting out of the passenger programs. Delta Vacations is flooding the market with available airplanes, usually letting older frames fly a few years longer in the supplemental market instead of parking them in the desert. It's better to not use your airplanes everyday if you don't need to and Omni does know the market it serves. Unless narrow body types are added I think a reduction in fleet numbers might happen at Omni. No furlough, but "Slow and controlled growth"
04-01-2018, 05:15 PM
#2128
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Most of my Sim partners can barely pass a FO PC/PT, so yes. Let's let the 2 year upgrades begin. Nothing makes me laugh more than a training department pilot at wits end. Of course the failure rate will be all their fault too!
04-01-2018, 05:16 PM
#2129
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Originally Posted by HeavyDriver
If and it's a big IF. The 2 to 3 year upgrade at Omni is only possible with attrition. Looking at economic indicators, I do not see any growth in the supplemental sector that would bring an increase in aircraft numbers at Omni. Omni doesn't bid on money losing programs that Swift and Dynamic usually do. Even Atlas is getting out of the passenger programs. Delta Vacations is flooding the market with available airplanes, usually letting older frames fly a few years longer in the supplemental market instead of parking them in the desert. It's better to not use your airplanes everyday if you don't need to and Omni does know the market it serves. Unless narrow body types are added I think a reduction in fleet numbers might happen at Omni. No furlough, but "Slow and controlled growth"
04-01-2018, 05:37 PM
#2130
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Originally Posted by LRSRanger
What is attrition like over there? Most folks staying put or the exodus that we hear of at some of the other carriers?
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