Go to other "Omni TA" thread further down the page, the one started by "Kurmike". On p.14 there are a couple of posts with red highlights that give more details.

04-01-2018 | 12:11 PM

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Thing is, right now there is no need to look at anything over 3 year FO pay. The most junior captain was hired in October of 2014. So, you need to look at 4 year captain pay instead. Try that at a legacy carrier.

Frank Paden

Delta, AA and Fedex all have under 2 year upgrade.

04-01-2018 | 12:29 PM

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Delta, AA and Fedex all have under 2 year upgrade.

I was just about to say, I bumped into a 2 year 75 captain at FedEx a couple days ago. And let us not forget that 6 month upgrade at Delta.

04-01-2018 | 01:31 PM

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Delta, AA and Fedex all have under 2 year upgrade.

Good for them. Now who gives a rat’s &$@ ??

Delta and FedEx are discussed on a different section. Go over there and see how happy those guys are.

04-01-2018 | 01:49 PM

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Good for them. Now who gives a rat’s &$@ ??

Delta and FedEx are discussed on a different section. Go over there and see how happy those guys are.

Actually, I think that this is pertinent to the conversation. Fraannk seemed to be saying that the "quick upgrades" of about 4 years is one of the perks to consider when it comes to looking at Omni. So, understanding that upgrades faster than that are possible throughout the industry at this point is pertinent to the discussion.

04-01-2018 | 02:19 PM

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Well, I can’t speak for Fraannk, or divine what he “seems to be saying,” but comparing Omni to Delta when making a career choice is like comparing a frog to a donkey. Two completely different animals.
Anyone who can’t make the distinction doesn’t deserve to upgrade in 20 years, let alone 2.

04-01-2018 | 02:28 PM

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I agree with you that there is not necessarily any value in comparing the airlines themselves. My point is imply that "quick upgrades" are pretty common amongst all different types of operations these days, so it really isn't a selling point as to why one should or should not choose to go to Omni.

04-01-2018 | 04:45 PM

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If and it's a big IF. The 2 to 3 year upgrade at Omni is only possible with attrition. Looking at economic indicators, I do not see any growth in the supplemental sector that would bring an increase in aircraft numbers at Omni. Omni doesn't bid on money losing programs that Swift and Dynamic usually do. Even Atlas is getting out of the passenger programs. Delta Vacations is flooding the market with available airplanes, usually letting older frames fly a few years longer in the supplemental market instead of parking them in the desert. It's better to not use your airplanes everyday if you don't need to and Omni does know the market it serves. Unless narrow body types are added I think a reduction in fleet numbers might happen at Omni. No furlough, but "Slow and controlled growth"

04-01-2018 | 05:15 PM

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Most of my Sim partners can barely pass a FO PC/PT, so yes. Let's let the 2 year upgrades begin. Nothing makes me laugh more than a training department pilot at wits end. Of course the failure rate will be all their fault too!