1st year would be around $107,000 with per diem just looking at my averages. But you have the training pay before that. So assuming 2 months in training and 10 months on the line 97,000 plus a bit for per diem during training. Year two $113,000 and year 3 in jumps to $129,000. This assumes roughly 9k in per diem per year which is what I’m tracking towards. All that is pre tax. Most often overnights are DFW SEA BWI in that order from what I can see. There is also two Japanese bases that people will spend a week at a time at, one is okay the other not so much. Other than that you may spend extra days at home on duty especially at the end of a stretch of duty days. If you live in DFW or SEA you can end up with quite a few days at home on call.

Pay is essentially the same between the fleets. 777 guys get used (work days not necessarily hours) more. 767 has better schedules. 777 deadheads more chasing aircraft if that’s your thing. Bidding doesn’t really mean all that much here as some days can be moved around somewhat easily (D.J. Is awesome). Oh and outside of Christmas you can have pretty much any week of vacation you like as most guys cash out their vacation here. So if you have children that’s really nice.

 

Does John Burke still work at Omni? I thought he left for greener pastures after making such an impression at Omni.

 

You have the wrong person in mind, by a long shot.

 

I have heard that our VP of Flight OPS has made the comment "If you want Delta rates, go to Delta." Well, it appears we've had several Captains and First Officers take him up on that. Congratulations to those guys and thanks to AL for the suggestion! The flood gates are about to open. All major airlines are looking at losing 50%-75% of their seniority list to planned retirements. Extending the age to 67 will do little to mitigate that. Obviously, the management group at Delta appears to be forward thinkers and recognizes it. United will not be far behind. LLC's will start offering Direct Entry Captain positions and the ACMI's will be stuck with the leftovers if they don't get smarter. This old an tired strategy being employed by this current management group is laughable at best. We are losing pilots at the cyclic rate, so dangling a carrot colored 777 cargo turd has had zero effect. In fact, I think it has just reinforced the pilot group's resolve.

 

I love the resolve, but I have to question how that’s possible considering we haven’t even begun to discuss pay rates? Basically when did he say this since it wouldn’t have been at the negotiating table.

 

How do you know what has or has not been discussed? Are you sitting at the negotiating table? Do you trust your union? I do. I trust the fact that in this environment, not one single concession should be made. I trust DP, SS, and all the others sitting at the table. This negotiation will be purposefully dragged out by the company in hopes of a recession / concessions. AL has also made that comment, meanwhile pilots will continue to leave en masse. I think we as a pilot group / pilot profession are in a good position to maintain our resolve. My opinion, backed up by a little research.

 

will the company sponsor your security clearance?

 

You fill out the paperwork, they submit it.

Very few vacancies, most prefer General Population schedules and variety.

 

After many years in the industry... As an outsider perspective who's been through half a dozen contract. Management doesn't "manage" anything. Their brains are simply too undeveloped and/or small (after all they intentionally got into management)... What they do is execute knee jerk instinctive responses to whatever is perceived as the largest threat in any particular moment. In this climate, pilots can basically get whatever they want, it's just a question of "when" the threat of running out of pilots becomes real enough for the C Suite bottom feeders to cave.

 

Thank you, that's lower pay than most regionals, flying a heavy too. Besides DFW, SEA any exotic layovers?