New Hire Class Drops
01-08-2023 | 10:20 AM
#3561
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This is a very important distinction that is more in play now that new hires have been getting WB awards. Normally on NB fleets you can hold your plane in any base well before a year. However, a NYC 330B may not be able to hold ATL 330B after 12 months, but that pilot can break their new hire lock after 12 months and be awarded any other fleet in ATL they can hold. Just note that whatever NH lock that is left will be added on to the new 24 month lock for changing fleets.
01-08-2023 | 11:31 AM
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This is a very important distinction that is more in play now that new hires have been getting WB awards. Normally on NB fleets you can hold your plane in any base well before a year. However, a NYC 330B may not be able to hold ATL 330B after 12 months, but that pilot can break their new hire lock after 12 months and be awarded any other fleet in ATL they can hold. Just note that whatever NH lock that is left will be added on to the new 24 month lock for changing fleets.
01-08-2023 | 11:35 AM
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Here's a good example. You are awarded ATL 7ER, you live in Seattle. Since ER is supposedly closing there you are unlikely to get it on an AE, however, after a year, even if the 7ER is still in Seattle, you can bid to a different aircraft to get Seattle as long as you couldn't hold 7ER on that AE.
It's not that the aircraft isn't in the base you want, it's that you can't get to the base you want on your aircraft.
01-08-2023 | 04:41 PM
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No. It's not that the 330 isn't in ATL, it's that you can't HOLD it in ATL.
Here's a good example. You are awarded ATL 7ER, you live in Seattle. Since ER is supposedly closing there you are unlikely to get it on an AE, however, after a year, even if the 7ER is still in Seattle, you can bid to a different aircraft to get Seattle as long as you couldn't hold 7ER on that AE.
It's not that the aircraft isn't in the base you want, it's that you can't get to the base you want on your aircraft.
Here's a good example. You are awarded ATL 7ER, you live in Seattle. Since ER is supposedly closing there you are unlikely to get it on an AE, however, after a year, even if the 7ER is still in Seattle, you can bid to a different aircraft to get Seattle as long as you couldn't hold 7ER on that AE.
It's not that the aircraft isn't in the base you want, it's that you can't get to the base you want on your aircraft.
01-08-2023 | 05:57 PM
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Bid the things that will screw you last. There's no 220 in ATL so if you wanna be ATL based, 220 is your last preference. First preference is every ATL offering, second tier is every plane that ATL has but NYC based so you can base swap on the next AE (usually couple months). Last tier is stuff that doesn't exist in your desired base. You can bid for a new category after only a 1-year seat lock in that case (remaining seat lock gets added to your new seat lock).
01-08-2023 | 06:48 PM
#3566
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I don’t expect there to be an ATL 220 base until after 2030 when the 717s finally get parked.
01-09-2023 | 04:25 AM
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There has been zero discussion of that. The 220 doesn’t even do a single revenue flight into or out of ATL, and I don’t think you’ll see it for a long time. The 717 covers the short stage lengths that warrant 110 seats, and anything longer that the 220 is good on has enough connecting demand through ATL to justify the seating capacity of a 737 or 320/321.
I don’t expect there to be an ATL 220 base until after 2030 when the 717s finally get parked.
I don’t expect there to be an ATL 220 base until after 2030 when the 717s finally get parked.
01-09-2023 | 04:26 AM
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As a new hire you could bid 220 higher and get Atlanta in a year because 220 isn’t going to be a base in ATL, therefore you can take 1 year of your seatlock and bid off it and bring that to whatever you can hold in ATL. This only works for new hires.
01-09-2023 | 04:32 AM
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There has been zero discussion of that. The 220 doesn’t even do a single revenue flight into or out of ATL, and I don’t think you’ll see it for a long time. The 717 covers the short stage lengths that warrant 110 seats, and anything longer that the 220 is good on has enough connecting demand through ATL to justify the seating capacity of a 737 or 320/321.
I don’t expect there to be an ATL 220 base until after 2030 when the 717s finally get parked.
I don’t expect there to be an ATL 220 base until after 2030 when the 717s finally get parked.
01-09-2023 | 05:26 AM
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Think we’re going to start seeing a great seniority split between 320/737. With 319/320 rates getting banded, 321neo paying 7ER, longer legs with the Neo and the 737 taking over more short hops with a far less comfortable cockpit.
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