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Old 01-14-2022, 09:35 AM
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So, I just finished my Delta interview at Atlanta and wanted to pass on what I experienced. I am a 40-50 year old African American Pilot with 25 plus years in the Service. BS with advance studies degree, 10,000+FW hours, 2200+Turb, 6000 +PIC, 7+ years Vol work, 1 Check ride downer 5 years pasted. No other issues.
The interview begins with the Basic, you're all great, relax and all we want to do is get to know you speech from Management. I did use Cage and an Application Prep/Review.
You will be taken to a small room (5x8) where you will wear a mask. The interviewers will introduce themselves (Two Captains and one HR) HR will tell you to, “Very, Very, Very briefly” tell us about yourself, this is where the fun begins. During my intro, I noticed one Captain looking at the floor the other looking at the wall and the HR person looking at me like I just boiled out of a test tube, all with dead pan faces During my intro I mentioned how when I was young, delivering Newspapers, I would pass an airport and watch airplanes. At the conclusion of my 2 min intro the only question came from HR as to why I did not list the Delivery of Newspapers on my Application under employment. I apologized and stated that it was over 38 years ago, and I did not realize the relevances. One of the Captains then showed me on the applications how it states “All employment”, and then asked if I understood the meaning of the word, “ALL”. Next came the questions on the log books which centered on training and flights from 25-30 years ago and a brief touch on my current position. (Why is this flight only 0.7, why did this flight take you 1.9 when the distance is only 100NM, at your current position why did you fly as PIC every other flight for these weeks and on this week you flew every other day. ect….) I explained as best I could remember, and many of my explanations were met with skepticism. This took about 30/40 mins. Then came the three TMAT questions. All were Negative based, When did you fail as a leader, When did you make a mistake and had to be corrected, How would you handle flying with someone who just does not like you.

In my opinion the interview was confrontational, leading to adversarial and ended with a general interrogation feel. In my opinion, Delta cared nothing about any positive elements and instead set a goal to find a chink in the armor, drill deep into the hole like a tick and hope to drag you in. I was unable to ask the other 15 or so non-minority applicants what they had experienced, as i was told within 30 mins that I did not meet the matrix and could reapply in 6 months.
This was my first interview with a Major and I write this because with all the prep and research the general tone of the interview/interrogation did catch me by surprise, and I believe contributed to the negative results.

Good luck to all and in the words of Mike Tyson, “ Everyone has a plan until you get punched in the mouth”

Stay strong,
Snowman
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Old 01-14-2022, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Roach View Post
Got the invitation to complete the online assessment for Delta and I have a couple questions if y'all can confirm/deny...
1. CUT-E will help with practice (great run down by flymeaway). Is RST significantly better/different because there seems to be a very significant price difference?
2. The email says you have 7 days to complete it. Does that mean once you begin the assessment, or 7 days to take it from when you get the email?
3. Coming from a military then -135 background...those with similar backgrounds, was there anything that surprised you or you wish you had known/done differently to prepare?

Many thanks!

Roach
Roach,

I just took it. I used CUT-E. I probably over practiced. Realize there are like 10+ sections on the test prep. The actual exam has 8 or so (they are listed previously in this thread). They also have the ATC read back section. I took my time on that and you can play back 3x. I did that and passed so don't think you need to crush it on the first try. Minor differences from practice to actaul exam. One thing is that the practice test is all back and white (sudoku puzzle one) and test has colors. That distracted me at first but it's actually easier once you get rolling. Don't waste your time with the personality test on CUTE-E. The key to the actual one is be consistent (in my opinion). They will catch you in a lie or contradiction. There were some that I was like "huh I bet the company would want to hear me say this," but chose my gut. I never strongly agreed with a single statement. As for CUT-E i think the actual test is about Medium setting. So if you practice all hard on CUT-E you'll be fine.

Was't feeling so hot after it (for the work place behavior section), but got the interview invite 4 days later. Call the number and keep calling. The lady said the phone rings non-stop. I got lucky and got thru on my 4th call on my drive home from work.

For others wondering:
- I used checked and set for app review (and resume for other airlines)
- Submitted on 23 Dec
- Online Test invite on 3 Jan
- Took COG 6 Jan
- Invite for interview on 11 Jan
- Scheduled interview on 11 Jan
- Interview is mid March (using emerald coast as prep)

Stats:
- Almost all Mil Fighter (IP/ SEFE) 1503 hours total time (was very worried about low time and not being competitive)
- Did ATP and 1st class medical in December

Thanks to all the guys posting and providing info, input, and feedback. Looking forward to the opportunity and hopefully working with some of you guys.
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Old 01-15-2022, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Redtails4U View Post
So, I just finished my Delta interview at Atlanta and wanted to pass on what I experienced. I am a 40-50 year old African American Pilot with 25 plus years in the Service. BS with advance studies degree, 10,000+FW hours, 2200+Turb, 6000 +PIC, 7+ years Vol work, 1 Check ride downer 5 years pasted. No other issues.
The interview begins with the Basic, you're all great, relax and all we want to do is get to know you speech from Management. I did use Cage and an Application Prep/Review.
You will be taken to a small room (5x8) where you will wear a mask. The interviewers will introduce themselves (Two Captains and one HR) HR will tell you to, “Very, Very, Very briefly” tell us about yourself, this is where the fun begins. During my intro, I noticed one Captain looking at the floor the other looking at the wall and the HR person looking at me like I just boiled out of a test tube, all with dead pan faces During my intro I mentioned how when I was young, delivering Newspapers, I would pass an airport and watch airplanes. At the conclusion of my 2 min intro the only question came from HR as to why I did not list the Delivery of Newspapers on my Application under employment. I apologized and stated that it was over 38 years ago, and I did not realize the relevances. One of the Captains then showed me on the applications how it states “All employment”, and then asked if I understood the meaning of the word, “ALL”. Next came the questions on the log books which centered on training and flights from 25-30 years ago and a brief touch on my current position. (Why is this flight only 0.7, why did this flight take you 1.9 when the distance is only 100NM, at your current position why did you fly as PIC every other flight for these weeks and on this week you flew every other day. ect….) I explained as best I could remember, and many of my explanations were met with skepticism. This took about 30/40 mins. Then came the three TMAT questions. All were Negative based, When did you fail as a leader, When did you make a mistake and had to be corrected, How would you handle flying with someone who just does not like you.

In my opinion the interview was confrontational, leading to adversarial and ended with a general interrogation feel. In my opinion, Delta cared nothing about any positive elements and instead set a goal to find a chink in the armor, drill deep into the hole like a tick and hope to drag you in. I was unable to ask the other 15 or so non-minority applicants what they had experienced, as i was told within 30 mins that I did not meet the matrix and could reapply in 6 months.
This was my first interview with a Major and I write this because with all the prep and research the general tone of the interview/interrogation did catch me by surprise, and I believe contributed to the negative results.

Good luck to all and in the words of Mike Tyson, “ Everyone has a plan until you get punched in the mouth”

Stay strong,
Snowman
Absolute opposite my experience, interviewed this week as well.
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Old 01-15-2022, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Redtails4U View Post
So, I just finished my Delta interview at Atlanta and wanted to pass on what I experienced. I am a 40-50 year old African American Pilot with 25 plus years in the Service. BS with advance studies degree, 10,000+FW hours, 2200+Turb, 6000 +PIC, 7+ years Vol work, 1 Check ride downer 5 years pasted. No other issues.
The interview begins with the Basic, you're all great, relax and all we want to do is get to know you speech from Management. I did use Cage and an Application Prep/Review.
You will be taken to a small room (5x8) where you will wear a mask. The interviewers will introduce themselves (Two Captains and one HR) HR will tell you to, “Very, Very, Very briefly” tell us about yourself, this is where the fun begins. During my intro, I noticed one Captain looking at the floor the other looking at the wall and the HR person looking at me like I just boiled out of a test tube, all with dead pan faces During my intro I mentioned how when I was young, delivering Newspapers, I would pass an airport and watch airplanes. At the conclusion of my 2 min intro the only question came from HR as to why I did not list the Delivery of Newspapers on my Application under employment. I apologized and stated that it was over 38 years ago, and I did not realize the relevances. One of the Captains then showed me on the applications how it states “All employment”, and then asked if I understood the meaning of the word, “ALL”. Next came the questions on the log books which centered on training and flights from 25-30 years ago and a brief touch on my current position. (Why is this flight only 0.7, why did this flight take you 1.9 when the distance is only 100NM, at your current position why did you fly as PIC every other flight for these weeks and on this week you flew every other day. ect….) I explained as best I could remember, and many of my explanations were met with skepticism. This took about 30/40 mins. Then came the three TMAT questions. All were Negative based, When did you fail as a leader, When did you make a mistake and had to be corrected, How would you handle flying with someone who just does not like you.

In my opinion the interview was confrontational, leading to adversarial and ended with a general interrogation feel. In my opinion, Delta cared nothing about any positive elements and instead set a goal to find a chink in the armor, drill deep into the hole like a tick and hope to drag you in. I was unable to ask the other 15 or so non-minority applicants what they had experienced, as i was told within 30 mins that I did not meet the matrix and could reapply in 6 months.
This was my first interview with a Major and I write this because with all the prep and research the general tone of the interview/interrogation did catch me by surprise, and I believe contributed to the negative results.

Good luck to all and in the words of Mike Tyson, “ Everyone has a plan until you get punched in the mouth”

Stay strong,
Snowman

Do you think being a minority was the driving factor in your “reapply in 6 months”?

That seems to be what you’re implying…
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Old 01-15-2022, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dudemanbro View Post
Roach,

I just took it. I used CUT-E. I probably over practiced. Realize there are like 10+ sections on the test prep. The actual exam has 8 or so (they are listed previously in this thread). They also have the ATC read back section. I took my time on that and you can play back 3x. I did that and passed so don't think you need to crush it on the first try. Minor differences from practice to actaul exam. One thing is that the practice test is all back and white (sudoku puzzle one) and test has colors. That distracted me at first but it's actually easier once you get rolling. Don't waste your time with the personality test on CUTE-E. The key to the actual one is be consistent (in my opinion). They will catch you in a lie or contradiction. There were some that I was like "huh I bet the company would want to hear me say this," but chose my gut. I never strongly agreed with a single statement. As for CUT-E i think the actual test is about Medium setting. So if you practice all hard on CUT-E you'll be fine.

Was't feeling so hot after it (for the work place behavior section), but got the interview invite 4 days later. Call the number and keep calling. The lady said the phone rings non-stop. I got lucky and got thru on my 4th call on my drive home from work.

For others wondering:
- I used checked and set for app review (and resume for other airlines)
- Submitted on 23 Dec
- Online Test invite on 3 Jan
- Took COG 6 Jan
- Invite for interview on 11 Jan
- Scheduled interview on 11 Jan
- Interview is mid March (using emerald coast as prep)

Stats:
- Almost all Mil Fighter (IP/ SEFE) 1503 hours total time (was very worried about low time and not being competitive)
- Did ATP and 1st class medical in December

Thanks to all the guys posting and providing info, input, and feedback. Looking forward to the opportunity and hopefully working with some of you guys.
Thank you for passing this info! I am also a fighter bro with near identical hours when my app goes live shortly.

What was your availability date? Was there any available interview dates before two months out? My DOS is 1 May.
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Old 01-16-2022, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Redtails4U View Post
So, I just finished my Delta interview at Atlanta and wanted to pass on what I experienced. I am a 40-50 year old African American Pilot with 25 plus years in the Service. BS with advance studies degree, 10,000+FW hours, 2200+Turb, 6000 +PIC, 7+ years Vol work, 1 Check ride downer 5 years pasted. No other issues.
The interview begins with the Basic, you're all great, relax and all we want to do is get to know you speech from Management. I did use Cage and an Application Prep/Review.
You will be taken to a small room (5x8) where you will wear a mask. The interviewers will introduce themselves (Two Captains and one HR) HR will tell you to, “Very, Very, Very briefly” tell us about yourself, this is where the fun begins. During my intro, I noticed one Captain looking at the floor the other looking at the wall and the HR person looking at me like I just boiled out of a test tube, all with dead pan faces During my intro I mentioned how when I was young, delivering Newspapers, I would pass an airport and watch airplanes. At the conclusion of my 2 min intro the only question came from HR as to why I did not list the Delivery of Newspapers on my Application under employment. I apologized and stated that it was over 38 years ago, and I did not realize the relevances. One of the Captains then showed me on the applications how it states “All employment”, and then asked if I understood the meaning of the word, “ALL”. Next came the questions on the log books which centered on training and flights from 25-30 years ago and a brief touch on my current position. (Why is this flight only 0.7, why did this flight take you 1.9 when the distance is only 100NM, at your current position why did you fly as PIC every other flight for these weeks and on this week you flew every other day. ect….) I explained as best I could remember, and many of my explanations were met with skepticism. This took about 30/40 mins. Then came the three TMAT questions. All were Negative based, When did you fail as a leader, When did you make a mistake and had to be corrected, How would you handle flying with someone who just does not like you.

In my opinion the interview was confrontational, leading to adversarial and ended with a general interrogation feel. In my opinion, Delta cared nothing about any positive elements and instead set a goal to find a chink in the armor, drill deep into the hole like a tick and hope to drag you in. I was unable to ask the other 15 or so non-minority applicants what they had experienced, as i was told within 30 mins that I did not meet the matrix and could reapply in 6 months.
This was my first interview with a Major and I write this because with all the prep and research the general tone of the interview/interrogation did catch me by surprise, and I believe contributed to the negative results.

Good luck to all and in the words of Mike Tyson, “ Everyone has a plan until you get punched in the mouth”

Stay strong,
Snowman
Snowman, I’m sorry the interview didn’t end with a CJO, and that the process felt confrontational. And it is always helpful to have more data points for those applying, so thanks for posting your experience. Obviously, none of us were there, but I can maybe offer this.

I have posted several times about how I believe this is intentional technique, at least in part. Others have also. They try to find a thread and pull at it just to see how you react. With the way these forums work, once it’s buried 30 pages back, it can be hard to find, and ‘search’ does not offer the granularity for finer points like this. Just a limitation of the format here, so if you didn’t read about that, it’s not necessarily for lack of trying.

I guess the point is, for whatever reason, at least some interviewees get this as a planned technique, and I can only assume “the reaction” is what they are gauging. Perhaps that is what tripped your interview up, I don’t know? I hope you come back in 6 months and knock it out of the park. Hope that helps.

Also, if it helps, here is a post adding a +1 for my experience. Good luck.
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Old 01-16-2022, 07:21 AM
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I think we have seen a few personalities on these forums that have to be right..... ALWAYS! They can not let an issue go. Whether it be Covid related, politics, profit sharing, or investing. They....just....have...to...be....RIGHT!.

So, this "confrontational" interview may be an attempt to weed these types of people out prior to onboarding them on the Delta seniority list. (Fangs has good points on how to handle it)

But then again, maybe the interviewer is just a Richard. Typically those types of people do not last long before they themselves are relieved of their responsibility. It seems like the training department is a good example... been a long, long time(decades) since I've had a Richard as an instructor.

JMHO
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Old 01-16-2022, 08:03 AM
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Prime example of why you need to read and follow instructions. It’s not that hard and that’s why there’s also app reviews.

The problem is that when you omit information so simple, it bring a lot of red flags. What else could this applicant be hiding?

It doesn’t matter who the person is. I hope he gets back in 6 months and nail it.
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How long from cjo to clearing background and getting the class date has it been running for 121 guys? We had a couple from our group get the class date last week and the rest of us are still waiting.
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3 View Post
Prime example of why you need to read and follow instructions. It’s not that hard and that’s why there’s also app reviews.

The problem is that when you omit information so simple, it bring a lot of red flags. What else could this applicant be hiding?

It doesn’t matter who the person is. I hope he gets back in 6 months and nail it.
Likewise, if it's not on your resume, perhaps don't mention it. If the app doesn't ask about unpaid parking tickets, I'm not going to mention all of the unpaid parking tickets I have during the interview because I think they'll appreciate my self-flagellating honesty. If I had a job that I didn't list on my app, I'm not going to bring it up in the interview, because they'll do exactly what happened.

An interview is a performance; a dance between participants. I'm going to play my part, they're going to play theirs. Do the dance, play the game, and then go on and live your life. Don't add steps that aren't part of the routine.

Note: I am in NO WAY advocating lying, hiding important information, or being misleading in any way during the interview. Do not lie in the interview, or ever.

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