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Old 01-18-2022, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by SalishPirate View Post
Howdy all, I have an interview scheduled in mid March. I have 0 LORs. Does anyone know if they are desired for application scoring or for decision making at the interview. If it’s scoring well I don’t need to go chase those down. Otherwise I know 1 DL pilot and any other LOR will come from another 121 or 91 (corporate) pilot. Cheers!

If you already have an interview it is unnecessary. It used to be you needed an LOR to GET an interview.

I have a friend that asked for one recently and got an invite before I could even submit it.
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Old 01-18-2022, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by marcal View Post
If you already have an interview it is unnecessary. It used to be you needed an LOR to GET an interview.

I have a friend that asked for one recently and got an invite before I could even submit it.
Thanks, that was my suspicion. Crazy times these are!
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Old 01-18-2022, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers View Post
Just remember, on probation there is no union protection. Of course Delta wants you, but if circumstances arise that preclude you from being back on time, that could prove to be very stressful. Expect mgt to ask, " You are in your first week and have no-showed at "trip", explain to me why you want to be a Delta pilot".

If unfortunately you are fired, prolly tough to explain it away at your future career....not impossible, but ATL-West coast...not worth the squeeze IMO

Welcome aboard..enjoy the ride!
The bolded statement is false insofar as the absolute you are framing it. Post OE there are significant union protections (read the CBA) even while still on probation. Even before OE a pilot is entitled to union representation to some degree.

In any case to strongly imply that a new hire pilot would be terminated because the operation fell apart and they couldn't make it to the second week puts the burden on you to show when and how often, if ever, that's happened in the past, and what, if any, circumstances surrounded it.

Also, what percent of the average NH class goes home for that weekend? If its a lot (and I bet it is) that would be a very agressive move that seems hard to defend and doesn't seem like something they would do outside of the most egregious of circumstances.
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Old 01-18-2022, 01:30 PM
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Do they do one day of interviews a week, every day, or some other number of days?
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Old 01-18-2022, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy View Post
The bolded statement is false insofar as the absolute you are framing it. Post OE there are significant union protections (read the CBA) even while still on probation. Even before OE a pilot is entitled to union representation to some degree.

In any case to strongly imply that a new hire pilot would be terminated because the operation fell apart and they couldn't make it to the second week puts the burden on you to show when and how often, if ever, that's happened in the past, and what, if any, circumstances surrounded it.

Also, what percent of the average NH class goes home for that weekend? If its a lot (and I bet it is) that would be a very agressive move that seems hard to defend and doesn't seem like something they would do outside of the most egregious of circumstances.
Will you be fired if on probation and get a DWI?

Will you be fired from delta if you get a DWI and are not on probation?

As I attested to in a previous post , things may have changed. I know 3 pilots terminated in 1 year,,,,THEIR PROBATIONARY YEAR. Two were for sure the result of DWI, the third was a possibility. I subsequently flew with at least 10 pilots that had been thru the HIMS program when off probation. I'll leave it to you to parse the language, but the intent is say....mind your P;s and Q's especially prior to employment, especially during probation and once off probation. If you step on your schwantz/lips you probably have more job security if it happens after probation.

If my kid asked me the question about going home during indoc to the west coast, I would answer his question with a question. "Not knowing the exact answer, and every situation is nuanced, are you willing to risk your job over 1 day off while on probation if things go sideways ?"

If he asked me that question while off probation and mid rotation(like the 350 had ) I'd say go ahead, you won't be fired but you might have some 'splaining to do if things go sideways.

I'd rather give advise of the conservative nature, rather than living on the edge.

Apologies if you think my advise was wrong, The guys in indoc now have two perspectives to choose from, which is good. If things are black and white...I want to know the rules and abide while pushing them if it benefits me(us). This is situation is kinda gray IMHO

Regardless of their choice....WELCOME ABOARD!!!

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Old 01-18-2022, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers View Post
Will you be fired if on probation and get a DWI?

Will you be fired from delta if you get a DWI and are not on probation?
I don't know if there is an automatic answer to either of those questions. Even if there is, how is it reasonable to equate that to not making it back on indoc weekend under otherwise reasonable circumstances?

If someone planned on one flight that got them back 20 minutes before class started and it was delayed or cancelled, OK that's kind of dumb. How about 2 flights that get back the day before but all the stars aligned and they were both suddenly cancelled, and they called as soon as they could to give the company a heads up? They will be fired for that?

That's not only unreasonable but also seems very unlikely they would even think of trying to do that.
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Old 01-18-2022, 05:04 PM
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My interview was last week, got CJO. How long does it take to hear back from delta to start the background check? Could I be send to PARB after a CJO letter was given? Some people that did the interview with me already received the email but I haven’t.
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Old 01-18-2022, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Akvi223 View Post
My interview was last week, got CJO. How long does it take to hear back from delta to start the background check? Could I be send to PARB after a CJO letter was given? Some people that did the interview with me already received the email but I haven’t.
7 days for me, 8 days for another guy in my group. You should’ve received an email saying that you passed the psych portion of your interview. It was the second of two emails you’ll see after you escape cell phone purgatory, first being CJO. One came just after my interview time, two came around 5pm (post psych call with the shrink). Dude that got PARB’d found out the same day…
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Old 01-18-2022, 06:04 PM
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Make sure you complete every part of the email that you accept the job offer from. I thought I did but I went back 4 days after I received the CJO and I didn’t complete the tax questionnaire portion and I think that’s what’s delaying my background email.
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Old 01-18-2022, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy View Post
I don't know if there is an automatic answer to either of those questions. Even if there is, how is it reasonable to equate that to not making it back on indoc weekend under otherwise reasonable circumstances?

If someone planned on one flight that got them back 20 minutes before class started and it was delayed or cancelled, OK that's kind of dumb. How about 2 flights that get back the day before but all the stars aligned and they were both suddenly cancelled, and they called as soon as they could to give the company a heads up? They will be fired for that?

That's not only unreasonable but also seems very unlikely they would even think of trying to do that.
Thanks for proving my point yet again. This is a gray area as much as you try to pretend it is black and white. Seems as if you don't have an unequivocal answer any more than I do The red above is an excellent example. If you PSC to work with with 20 minutes to spare and the flight cancels...you are good. No way will /can you be fired. But yet you call it dumb if going back to indoc/initial. You can't have it both ways. I assume you feel this way because there MIGHT be some blow back up to and including termination....ergo that hue you are looking for in the paint aisle is called gray (grey if in Great Britain)

I reiterate (especially for military guys that are totally new to this), sometimes the rules aren't black and white and my advise is error on the side of conservative/caution while on probation. Feel free to push the boundaries later.

Just 1 mans opinion.
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