DL Hiring: New Process
#2421

Camera ticket? That's like a parking ticket in most states - no points. Ignore it.
Part 61 stage check? Say what? That's not a thing.

#2422
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 271

One anecdote is I’m a CFII as a side hustle (using an LLC), which meant Cisive reached out to me directly as the rep for “the company” that employs myself. They wanted training records, FAA check ride info, etc on me in regards to any flying to do with my LLC. Their brains exploded when I told them I didn’t have any of that (my mil check rides were in lieu of traditional FAA bi-annuals, company I flew for doesn’t keep records on instructors, etc.) It took a few phone calls and multiple RFI responses to clear up their confusion; may have cost me 1-2 weeks on the timeline to indoc (TBD). Point is, if any of you are in a similar self-employed situation, be ready to deal with Cisive issues proactively!
Unfortunately I’m not sure there’s a way to reduce the timeline for those with aviation side hustles. Just make sure to be patient and respectful as you normally would.
#2423

I bet tier 3 invites start coming later this year maybe🤷♀️
#2424

WHEN the invite comes, just be honest, humble, and turn any perceived weaknesses into a strength, i.e. "it made me a better pilot, and I've never done/missed X again". You'll be fine. Best of luck.
#2425
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Joined APC: Nov 2021
Posts: 62

In the DL app addendum there is this question and i answered YES and explained.
"Have you ever failed ANY checkrides or received an unsat on ANY phase/stage check, proficiency check, or line check- civilian or military?"
So in my flight school (part 61) (aslo 12 years ago) they would have me fly with a different instructor before releasing me for solo x-country. He did not think I was ready so commented on my logbook "Stage Check 2 incomplete."
Thanks everyone for the input
"Have you ever failed ANY checkrides or received an unsat on ANY phase/stage check, proficiency check, or line check- civilian or military?"
So in my flight school (part 61) (aslo 12 years ago) they would have me fly with a different instructor before releasing me for solo x-country. He did not think I was ready so commented on my logbook "Stage Check 2 incomplete."
Thanks everyone for the input
#2426

In the DL app addendum there is this question and i answered YES and explained.
"Have you ever failed ANY checkrides or received an unsat on ANY phase/stage check, proficiency check, or line check- civilian or military?"
So in my flight school (part 61) (aslo 12 years ago) they would have me fly with a different instructor before releasing me for solo x-country. He did not think I was ready so commented on my logbook "Stage Check 2 incomplete."
Thanks everyone for the input
"Have you ever failed ANY checkrides or received an unsat on ANY phase/stage check, proficiency check, or line check- civilian or military?"
So in my flight school (part 61) (aslo 12 years ago) they would have me fly with a different instructor before releasing me for solo x-country. He did not think I was ready so commented on my logbook "Stage Check 2 incomplete."
Thanks everyone for the input
#2427

Wow what a dick move. Even when a BFR is unsatisfactory, you don't write unsat in someone's logbook, you just sign for the dual given. I hope karma is visiting this person well.
#2428
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,383

That said, I wouldn't feel there's any harm in disclosing it. Worst case it gives you a chance to explain it and shows that you're excessively honest. Gives them a chance to press to test with a few minutes of "bad cop" to see if you can handle it, which they're going to do anyway at some point most likely with something else if not that.
I'd also list the OrwellCam ticket. Its minor, gives you something else to talk about on your terms and shows extreme honesty.
The notion that they only hire ring knocking space shuttle door gunners who never jaywalked with 4.0's who built Habitat homes between Blue Angel airshows, and even then only the ones with the dark blue suits and red power ties in a tight double Windsor is highly blown out of proportion IMO.
#2430
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Joined APC: Sep 2021
Posts: 46

Keep in mind they’ll want the most recent bank statement within a week or so of closing - hopefully that statement still includes previous employer deposits. That said, on a previous home purchase I was able to provide a letter signed by my future boss stating my approx expected yearly salary and that I was being hired as a full time employee. That was good enough for those underwriters.
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