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Old 10-09-2023 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Which I’ve done and it was a non-event. Sure, might want to study before it, but it was worth it for the nearly three months off.
I even went back for a sim refresher while waiting 3 months for OE. 3 months PTO was definitely worth the 1 day of study and 1 day of sim. Delta will figure it out… or the won’t!!!
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Old 10-09-2023 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
YS on X-days is well above GS in the coverage ladder. So if you are close, but GS aren’t near your seniority yet, it’s much better than having to buy a trip.

Depending on how much time you have left, and if you have gotten the extension, you might wait for the GS and kill 2 birds with one stone. But buying a trip sux.
My 44X was at the end of August so I have till the end of December basically and right now I'm halfway there on hours. I don't think there's a risk of not meeting consolidation, but I also want to stay in the game at these early stages so I don't forget too much between rotations.

I was pretty close to a GS call that just went out.

Mostly I'm just pushing buttons right now trying to find out how things work

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Old 10-09-2023 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Khantahr
Why does buying a trip suck? You get to kinda pick what you want, and the other guy gets paid to stay home. Win win as far as I can tell.
Yes, he's the one getting paid, not you. You only get per diem. Not joking - search "Trip Buy" on DeltaNet and click the first result. Read the stuff on the left, especially the bottom where it talks about pay treatment.
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Old 10-09-2023 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Yes, he's the one getting paid, not you. You only get per diem. Not joking - search "Trip Buy" on DeltaNet and click the first result. Read the stuff on the left, especially the bottom where it talks about pay treatment.
…which is why I’ve always wondered why ANYone under ANY circumstances would ever do this.
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Old 10-09-2023 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Why does a trip buy suck?
Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
I was wondering the same thing. Especially when your seniority can only hold Florida turns but you buy a 72 hr Edinburgh layover...
Originally Posted by Khantahr
Why does buying a trip suck? You get to kinda pick what you want, and the other guy gets paid to stay home. Win win as far as I can tell.
It’s been said, but for anyone who didn’t catch it, let me state it clearly. If you do a trip buy, only one person is getting paid, an it is NOT YOU. You work for free, no joke. For. Free. It can have major pay implications. That sucks.

Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Why not just let the company deal with it? Enjoy not being called, go to the sim for a couple days, refresh your consolidation time, repeat as necessary. Worked great for me. YMMV.
Great it worked for you, I guess. But going back to VA Ave for 3-4 days for a short requal course, including two check events is not my first choice, nor my idea of a good plan. But if you aren’t even close to consolidating, I’d rather do that than buy 2 or 3 trips working for free.

Also, 3 man crews can only count ⅔ of the block time towards consolidation, and 4-man can only count half.

One final thing to remember, if you have to requal, you start the consolidation process completely over. Your previous hours do not count. In essence, bunk time doesn’t count.
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Old 10-09-2023 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
It’s been said, but for anyone who didn’t catch it, let me state it clearly. If you do a trip buy, only one person is getting paid, an it is NOT YOU. You work for free, no joke. For. Free. It can have major pay implications. That sucks.



Great it worked for you, I guess. But going back to VA Ave for 3-4 days for a short requal course, including two check events is not my first choice, nor my idea of a good plan. But if you aren’t even close to consolidating, I’d rather do that than buy 2 or 3 trips working for free.

Also, 3 man crews can only count ⅔ of the block time towards consolidation, and 4-man can only count half.

One final thing to remember, if you have to requal, you start the consolidation process completely over. Your previous hours do not count. In essence, bunk time doesn’t count.
Right… that’s why I put YMMV.

The whole process took three days, including my travel days to/from ATL. A trade of three days for three months off and worrying about YS etc was well worth it. I don’t fear VA Ave or the instructors that roam the halls there. Again, YMMV. As far as my consolidation starting over; IDGAFOS. That’s their problem, not mine.
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Old 10-09-2023 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Right… that’s why I put YMMV.

The whole process took three days, including my travel days to/from ATL. A trade of three days for three months off and worrying about YS etc was well worth it. I don’t fear VA Ave or the instructors that roam the halls there. Again, YMMV. As far as my consolidation starting over; IDGAFOS. That’s their problem, not mine.
Wow. Chip meet shoulder. I'd have thought you won the freaking lottery here since you're now an A, and just a year and a half ago you were trying to decide between DL and AA and glad to escape your LCC. But hey what do I know.
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Old 10-09-2023 | 07:17 PM
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Newbie question: I have a single day of reserve at the end of this month I am trying to swap out of. That day shows 20 reserve required, 16 available. The I have offered it 3 different dates to swap with it, they currently show 26/19, 28/23, 23/23. I thought it wouldn't give me any trouble because a couple of those are weekend days with worse coverage than the day I want to move my x-day to, but it denied all 3 requests for "capped reserve day." Am I missing something?
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Old 10-10-2023 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw
Wow. Chip meet shoulder. I'd have thought you won the freaking lottery here since you're now an A, and just a year and a half ago you were trying to decide between DL and AA and glad to escape your LCC. But hey what do I know.
What? Maybe you’ve read into something here?
I do feel like I’ve won the lottery! I love my job and still can’t believe I’m driving 767s to Europe.
I was simply saying that consolidation is not my priority and if the company wants to pay me to stay home with my family then I’ll take it! I also don’t feel like I “escaped” my LCC. B6 was a great place to work most days…
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Old 10-10-2023 | 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by iLikeMoose
Newbie question: I have a single day of reserve at the end of this month I am trying to swap out of. That day shows 20 reserve required, 16 available. The I have offered it 3 different dates to swap with it, they currently show 26/19, 28/23, 23/23. I thought it wouldn't give me any trouble because a couple of those are weekend days with worse coverage than the day I want to move my x-day to, but it denied all 3 requests for "capped reserve day." Am I missing something?
Read up on §12.M.8., there are a bunch of rules (not all easy to parse) that resemble the PBS rules but are NOT the same.

That said: an orphaned day at the end of the month is pure gold. Are you sure you want to get rid of it??
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