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Old 11-24-2024 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ShegotheD
It sure would be nice if ALPA stepped up and at least acknowledged the problem. I am in the same boat, a long-time RES pilot, and enjoy the perks of living on base; however, if they are going to destroy GS, I agree that we should be able to have as many SC as we want.
A grievance on SC isn’t “acknowledging the problem”?
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Old 11-24-2024 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
A grievance on SC isn’t “acknowledging the problem”?
It's like the STS I have been sitting as NEW for the last few months. I guess you could say that is acknowledging it, but some sort of communication on where they are in the process would be nice, or I guess an email or something on where ALPA stands on the matter would be nice. If an email about it has been sent, I have not seen anything, and if so, I retract my statement. In general, I would like ALPA to be more open with us.
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Old 11-24-2024 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ShegotheD
It sure would be nice if ALPA stepped up and at least acknowledged the problem. I am in the same boat, a long-time RES pilot, and enjoy the perks of living on base; however, if they are going to destroy GS, I agree that we should be able to have as many SC as we want.
A gazillion percent this. I just fear the company is taking SC ‘hostage’, creating a future quid for us to negotiate.
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Old 11-24-2024 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ShegotheD
It's like the STS I have been sitting as NEW for the last few months. I guess you could say that is acknowledging it, but some sort of communication on where they are in the process would be nice, or I guess an email or something on where ALPA stands on the matter would be nice. If an email about it has been sent, I have not seen anything, and if so, I retract my statement. In general, I would like ALPA to be more open with us.
Have you tried reaching out to your reps? There was just an MEC meeting in Atlanta and generally they get briefed by the scheduling comittee and contract admin about new and ongoing greivances.

The problem with greivances is the RLA. Not a quick process. My reps have said the refusal of additional SC periods is being greived but since this is something that just started, it's probably really early in the process. I wouldn't be surprised if it's getting pushed to the front of the line for a mediation board though.
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Old 11-24-2024 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
A gazillion percent this. I just fear the company is taking SC ‘hostage’, creating a future quid for us to negotiate.

My words to my rep are not to give any quid for this. They only thing they should be striving for is to increase the value of SC, whether that's increase value of unused SC, or better yet, extra pay for any assigned SC. We have guys out there pushing for complete SC lines, which is crazy to me. Had that a different shop and the little bit of extra cash clearly didn't draw in pilots, so they just went junior anyway. People were all giddy about the 18 hour call out and suddenly act suprised when the company actaully uses short call.
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Old 11-24-2024 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
My words to my rep are not to give any quid for this. They only thing they should be striving for is to increase the value of SC, whether that's increase value of unused SC, or better yet, extra pay for any assigned SC. We have guys out there pushing for complete SC lines, which is crazy to me. Had that a different shop and the little bit of extra cash clearly didn't draw in pilots, so they just went junior anyway. People were all giddy about the 18 hour call out and suddenly act suprised when the company actaully uses short call.
The problem isn’t 18 hour call out it’s the company choosing to be this way. If they wanted they could use VAS but they’re choosing not to, I’ll continue being promptly available.
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Old 11-24-2024 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
The problem isn’t 18 hour call out it’s the company choosing to be this way. If they wanted they could use VAS but they’re choosing not to, I’ll continue being promptly available.

100% and that's how I hope all pilots are with their SC reports. That's the only way they'll ever be compelled to use VAS.
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Old 11-24-2024 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
100% and that's how I hope all pilots are with their SC reports. That's the only way they'll ever be compelled to use VAS.
I think it was on one of the FB group posts, but someone somewhere said that apparently the company can't use VAS right now because the trip coverage process isn't accurately awarding VAS pilots rotations so until they fix that they won't offer VAS.
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Old 11-24-2024 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
I think it was on one of the FB group posts, but someone somewhere said that apparently the company can't use VAS right now because the trip coverage process isn't accurately awarding VAS pilots rotations so until they fix that they won't offer VAS.

So I guess we just add that to the list of things in the PWA that the company just ignores? It's a wonder that we still have some pilots on here who don't understand our attitude towards promptly available.
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Old 11-24-2024 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
I think it was on one of the FB group posts, but someone somewhere said that apparently the company can't use VAS right now because the trip coverage process isn't accurately awarding VAS pilots rotations so until they fix that they won't offer VAS.
Sounds like an implementation timeline grievance...
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