You are more empathetic than I am. Going on 3 decades and 3 airlines and there has never been a "good" schedulers but what we have now is blatant disregard for the PWA and commensurate pay. That is by design and yes, there is training just not adequate training and definitely a refusal to change the training to be compliant. However, I think the intent is to 1) cause issues that result in settlements in their favor and 2) cause pain points for the association going into section 6 and 3) try anything and everything that may reduce wage expenses. After increasing the coverage window by 100% and the creation of other tools SS, VAS, premium SC etc. they have managed to make it worse, that's NOT coincidental. They refuse to implement these and train schedulers on the use. Pay and training for the scheduler position is what it is. Taking that job is not a career goal but a way into a good company. Only big D can change that and doesn't which reveals the corporate posture on getting it right. This is the (good faith acting?) counterparty we are dealing with.

 

This has been the first month with proactive 30 hours rest scheduling on my fleet. I like to bid longer blocks of reserve days and both this month and next month have had 30hrs of rest placed on my schedule as soon as it's published in iCrew. Will that preclude me from a YS or GS for a trip that would otherwise still be 117 legal? Say a trip with a 30+hr layover or one that would still be legal if the 30hr rest was moved to after release. In the original announcement and the follow up discussion on SkyHub, the crew resources people said it won't preclude you from being awarded slips, but I heard several stories of people being denied awards because you won't even show up on the trip coverage report with the correct days of availability even though it would have been perfectly legal to fly the trip if they hadn't pre-posted the rest period. Anybody have any experiences with this?

 

You can't be excluded from a GS because of assigned read as long as you are legal for the trip. I think you'll be put into a different DOA bucket considering the assigned rest. Don't quote me on that though.

 

Still fighting the company via STS on one of these. Removing rest to include you in the coverage report is a manual process and doesn't always get done correctly. It's one of the "don't get paid now, grieve later" bugs. (features?)

As opposed to... fly now (get pay and credit now) grieve later.

 

I haven’t had a problem with it.

 

I have been excluded from trips because CS claimed I was ineligible due to pre-posted rest.

So now when they do that ****, I just move X days around. Then they remove it.
Pre-posting 30 hour rest in a future bid period is the dumbest way to accomplish nothing.

 

I'm not sure it's accomplishing nothing. It seems like it's driving down the reserves available for those days, which is crappy for us. Also, a buddy moved his X-days and they actually moved his rest.

 

Interesting. Good perspective. I've only ever seen them remove the rest.

 

I’ve also had them move the rest.

 

And THIS is why it's utter BS. It's illegal manipulation of the formula, and directly impacts swaps, x-day moves, etc.