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Old 09-10-2025 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CX500T
Swiped out sick on the first, log in MiCrew shows it (screencapped). iCrew shows REMARKS: PERFORMED BY MICREW, also screenshoted.

RES as usual. Going to be out for 6-8 weeks. (Multiple torn tendons, one severed)

Never call in OK. That block of LC Days charged as SICK.

Some X Days. I was in icrew checking some pay stuff, lo and behold I'm on the reserve availability list.

I'm sure CS will somehow make this my fault.

As I understand it, I'm noncontactable while SICK. And there's a pretty good chance I'm either going to be traveling for surgery/therapy, in the hospital or on some pretty heavy drugs post surgery. (I'm on some mild but still can't fly ones, besides the whole I can't even tie my shoes, nevermind fly problem at the moment)

Anyone else on RES have them showing you back on call with no call in well nor an OK on your schedule?

Not sure if this is related to the MiCrew sick being wonky, or just CS ineptitude.
Yup, had the exact same thing happen to me (minus the Darth Vader stuff). Swiped sick, had x days, then back on LC. Got assigned a 4 day trip 2 days prior without ever having called in well. Figured that fell under a them problem as I was still sick and had better things to do than call and argue.

They caught it next day and applied sick to the next stretch of reserve days so I imagine it’s a function of applying sick 1 day out vs 2 day out coverage but it’s still BS. No pilot should ever be assigned a reserve trip while sick.
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Old 09-11-2025 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueSkies
Thanks! That's very helpful. So if I do one IVD on say the 8th and another on the 14th that would count as my two IVD instances for the year? Good info, I'll have to adjust my strategy or just plan to drop 4 IVDs in a row somewhere.




More excellent info, thanks!

So if I absolutely must be OFF on the 4th in my scenario is there anyway they can use me on the 4th by assigning a trip during LC on the 1st? Or does the 30 hr rest req null that?

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No the earliest they would assign a trip reporting on the 4th would be the 2nd when you are in CQ and completely con contactable. Thus you are safe until at least 1800 that day. Even later if your CQ ends after 1500 since you get 9 hours of rest immediately following.
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Old 09-11-2025 | 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueSkies
Thanks! That's very helpful. So if I do one IVD on say the 8th and another on the 14th that would count as my two IVD instances for the year? Good info, I'll have to adjust my strategy or just plan to drop 4 IVDs in a row somewhere.




More excellent info, thanks!

So if I absolutely must be OFF on the 4th in my scenario is there anyway they can use me on the 4th by assigning a trip during LC on the 1st? Or does the 30 hr rest req null that?

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How many days prior to the 4th is the 1st? What does the PWA say about when manual coverage for a rotation begins?

I surmise you’re ATL based purely upon the fact your CQ is a 2-day pattern which means no travel day. So add 9 hours to the end of your sim on the 3rd… if that time is still the 3rd you simply go back on call (contactable status) at midnight.

Since you’re going right into an X day after you probably won’t deal with the attempted shenanigan of assigning you a SC period between 10-18 hours after long call start following a CQ day… but remember… you are NON-CONTACTABLE… anything given to you while non-contactable is not fly-now-grieve-later. The only way you can put yourself on the hook is to acknowledge, then it becomes fly now…

Resist the urge to do any schedule viewing while on your CQ days. Just monitor for appropriate contact once back on LC.
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Old 09-11-2025 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ohaiyo
Define "pay like a green slip"...like it will pay 2x during your REG month? Or it will pay above guarantee during your RES month?
2X on the REG days
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Old 09-11-2025 | 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueSkies
Thanks! That's very helpful. So if I do one IVD on say the 8th and another on the 14th that would count as my two IVD instances for the year? correct. Good info, I'll have to adjust my strategy or just plan to drop 4 IVDs in a row somewhere.




More excellent info, thanks!

So if I absolutely must be OFF on the 4th in my scenario is there anyway they can use me on the 4th by assigning a trip during LC on the 1st? Or does the 30 hr rest req null that?

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If you absolutely must have the 4th off, put an X day there. Depending on what time your trip on the 31st releases, you could get a 30-hour rest on the 31/1st, and then a 1-day turn on the 4th reporting at 1801 (with a notification call at 0001). Very, very likely, but possible. How long is your trip which ends of the 31st?
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Old 09-11-2025 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
If you absolutely must have the 4th off, put an X day there. Depending on what time your trip on the 31st releases, you could get a 30-hour rest on the 31/1st, and then a 1-day turn on the 4th reporting at 1801 (with a notification call at 0001). Very, very likely, but possible. How long is your trip which ends of the 31st?
They cannot do this no matter what time his trip ends. He is still a REG pilot at the end of that trip thus has no required schedule check and no way to be notified of any rest until he starts LC at midnight. Assuming they call him right at 0001 and he’s smart and doesn’t answer the phone the earliest rest could start is 0201. They can stitch X day and pre-CQ rest together as long as it is done and notified in advance. So if he’s got a C period day one then they’ve got a small window starting at 0001 01OCT to hit him with a rest assignment. But regardless even if they do I’ve never heard of anyone getting hit with a turn post-1800 on a single reserve day. Like you said it is technically possible but extraordinarily unlikely. Even if such a short turn did pop up it’d probably be grabbed as a WS.
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Old 09-11-2025 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
How many days prior to the 4th is the 1st? What does the PWA say about when manual coverage for a rotation begins?

I surmise you’re ATL based purely upon the fact your CQ is a 2-day pattern which means no travel day. So add 9 hours to the end of your sim on the 3rd… if that time is still the 3rd you simply go back on call (contactable status) at midnight.

Since you’re going right into an X day after you probably won’t deal with the attempted shenanigan of assigning you a SC period between 10-18 hours after long call start following a CQ day… but remember… you are NON-CONTACTABLE… anything given to you while non-contactable is not fly-now-grieve-later. The only way you can put yourself on the hook is to acknowledge, then it becomes fly now…

Resist the urge to do any schedule viewing while on your CQ days. Just monitor for appropriate contact once back on LC.
3 days...but sometimes I question my ability to count because the SRH says things like "a LC pilot could be assigned a rotation reporting in as many as 48 hours or more."

But yes, now reading it again, it seems like the 2nd around 0800 is when CS would start covering trips for the 4th, by which point I'd safely be in non-contactable status.

Very good advice, I will keep that in mind, thanks!

Originally Posted by tennisguru
No the earliest they would assign a trip reporting on the 4th would be the 2nd when you are in CQ and completely con contactable. Thus you are safe until at least 1800 that day. Even later if your CQ ends after 1500 since you get 9 hours of rest immediately following.
Awesome, thank you. I think I'm starting to get it!

Originally Posted by FangsF15
If you absolutely must have the 4th off, put an X day there. Depending on what time your trip on the 31st releases, you could get a 30-hour rest on the 31/1st, and then a 1-day turn on the 4th reporting at 1801 (with a notification call at 0001). Very, very likely, but possible. How long is your trip which ends of the 31st?
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They cannot do this no matter what time his trip ends. He is still a REG pilot at the end of that trip thus has no required schedule check and no way to be notified of any rest until he starts LC at midnight. Assuming they call him right at 0001 and he’s smart and doesn’t answer the phone the earliest rest could start is 0201. They can stitch X day and pre-CQ rest together as long as it is done and notified in advance. So if he’s got a C period day one then they’ve got a small window starting at 0001 01OCT to hit him with a rest assignment. But regardless even if they do I’ve never heard of anyone getting hit with a turn post-1800 on a single reserve day. Like you said it is technically possible but extraordinarily unlikely. Even if such a short turn did pop up it’d probably be grabbed as a WS.

Based on tennis's post and my reading of the SRH I feel good about the 1st and 4th and the whole REG to RSV. It is a 3 day (28-30). As you explained, there is a short window where if CS was really on their game they could squeeze a 30 hour rest in there based on my start time on the 2nd.

Many thanks for the help!
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Old 09-12-2025 | 05:56 AM
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The saga continues. So I was on call 2359 to 859. I was given a trip that reports at 740, take off 832. It's a turn and back 1324 landing. Isn't FAR 10 hours and 1 leg when you are on call at 2359? Crew Scheduling has screwed me over endless times, rerouting me into golden days when I've been home base landed on my last leg, not applying PB, etc. So is this a violation?
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Old 09-12-2025 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ScopingItOut
The saga continues. So I was on call 2359 to 859. I was given a trip that reports at 740, take off 832. It's a turn and back 1324 landing. Isn't FAR 10 hours and 1 leg when you are on call at 2359? Crew Scheduling has screwed me over endless times, rerouting me into golden days when I've been home base landed on my last leg, not applying PB, etc. So is this a violation?
From the SRH, p. 82. You are limited to the lesser of 16 hours, or FAR 117 Table B plus 4, from the start of your RAP. Since Table B allows a 2-leg day beginning at 0740L to have a 14-hour FDP, the max you can be on from the start of your RAP at 2359L is 16 hours from then, or 1559L.
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Old 09-12-2025 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TALPAtalker
From the SRH, p. 82. You are limited to the lesser of 16 hours, or FAR 117 Table B plus 4, from the start of your RAP. Since Table B allows a 2-leg day beginning at 0740L to have a 14-hour FDP, the max you can be on from the start of your RAP at 2359L is 16 hours from then, or 1559L.
This is a fundamental error that lots of people make. FDP start time is at report time, not at SC start time. FDP limits are based on the FDP start time, not the SC start time.
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