Reserve for Dummies
11-22-2025 | 12:37 PM
#4381
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What you are describing only applies if the last day before the reserve block was what the contract calls a non-fly day (though that's a misnomer). Vacation, training, going from line to reserve, etc... there's lots of reasons why the day prior to a reserve block might not be a "non-fly day" (even though you didn't fly) and therefore what you're describing is not true.
He said the day prior was NOT a PWA defined “no fly day” though. Coming immediately off something like CQ, that rule doesn’t apply. So he cannot get an assignment before 18 hours (and that still have to call, though CNO would suffice for this one thing).
Also, just for clarity, it’s most helpful to talk in hours, not time, when talking reserve rules. Not every LC day starts at 0000, but the rules still apply (as early as 10 hours after starting long call, if placed 12 hours before LC start time).
Edit: Prospect beat me to it by 1 minute.
Also, just for clarity, it’s most helpful to talk in hours, not time, when talking reserve rules. Not every LC day starts at 0000, but the rules still apply (as early as 10 hours after starting long call, if placed 12 hours before LC start time).
Edit: Prospect beat me to it by 1 minute.
11-22-2025 | 02:04 PM
#4382
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I did not acknowledge. This makes me curious just in general, though... is there anything stopping the company from assigning someone SC, then removing it when the SC period approaches, even if it was assigned legally? Seems in that case you'd set yourself up to sit the short call (commuting in, getting a hotel potentially, cancelling plans, etc), then the company could just decide that it doesn't look like you'll be used and pull it to save a SCC. If you don't check your schedule during or before the SC I wouldn't even know I'd been removed.
Generally no, there is nothing stopping them from trying something. Reserve pilots acknowledging improper assignments in MiCrew is one way they can succeed. There is a section in the SRH called "Can they do that?" which provides other examples.
11-22-2025 | 03:13 PM
#4383
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I would argue you'd be owed the SCC, had you had acknowledged the assignment. What follows the acknowledgment is the presumption that you would set up to sit short call as described. Absent the acknowledgement, they wouldn't be able to assume that (hence why it was removed).
Generally no, there is nothing stopping them from trying something. Reserve pilots acknowledging improper assignments in MiCrew is one way they can succeed. There is a section in the SRH called "Can they do that?" which provides other examples.
Generally no, there is nothing stopping them from trying something. Reserve pilots acknowledging improper assignments in MiCrew is one way they can succeed. There is a section in the SRH called "Can they do that?" which provides other examples.
11-22-2025 | 04:03 PM
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With limited exceptions surrounding receiving a rotation assignment on SC and receiving rest on a post rotation schedule check, a reserve pilot is not required to acknowledge any assignment (SC or rotation). This is true even if the assignment was made and legally and notified properly. All a reserve pilot is required to do once a legal assignment/notification has been given is either report for a rotation or be “promptly available” during their SC window.
11-23-2025 | 02:27 PM
#4386
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This is the kind of nugget that I love.
Not every day 'off' is a RES 'non-fly day'. Example: the last day of a REG month before starting a RES month, even if you're not flying, is not a RES 'non-fly day'. You are not contactable and have no required schedule check.
If you are on RES on the 1st day of the new bid period coming from REG you have no required schedule check and you're not even required to 'ascertain if something's been put on your schedule'. CS must legally contact you for any assignment and that assignment can not commence prior to 18 hours on the first. Robo CNO call can be used to escalate you to SC at RES bid period minute-1, but can't be used for a trip. (see "Legal notification")
Please correct me if I'm mistaken as I go back and forth, and will intentionally 'orphan' RES days at the beginning of the new bid period.
Not every day 'off' is a RES 'non-fly day'. Example: the last day of a REG month before starting a RES month, even if you're not flying, is not a RES 'non-fly day'. You are not contactable and have no required schedule check.
If you are on RES on the 1st day of the new bid period coming from REG you have no required schedule check and you're not even required to 'ascertain if something's been put on your schedule'. CS must legally contact you for any assignment and that assignment can not commence prior to 18 hours on the first. Robo CNO call can be used to escalate you to SC at RES bid period minute-1, but can't be used for a trip. (see "Legal notification")
Please correct me if I'm mistaken as I go back and forth, and will intentionally 'orphan' RES days at the beginning of the new bid period.
11-23-2025 | 03:04 PM
#4387
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This is the kind of nugget that I love.
Not every day 'off' is a RES 'non-fly day'. Example: the last day of a REG month before starting a RES month, even if you're not flying, is not a RES 'non-fly day'. You are not contactable and have no required schedule check.
If you are on RES on the 1st day of the new bid period coming from REG you have no required schedule check and you're not even required to 'ascertain if something's been put on your schedule'. CS must legally contact you for any assignment and that assignment can not commence prior to 18 hours on the first. Robo CNO call can be used to escalate you to SC at RES bid period minute-1, but can't be used for a trip. (see "Legal notification")
Please correct me if I'm mistaken as I go back and forth, and will intentionally 'orphan' RES days at the beginning of the new bid period.
Not every day 'off' is a RES 'non-fly day'. Example: the last day of a REG month before starting a RES month, even if you're not flying, is not a RES 'non-fly day'. You are not contactable and have no required schedule check.
If you are on RES on the 1st day of the new bid period coming from REG you have no required schedule check and you're not even required to 'ascertain if something's been put on your schedule'. CS must legally contact you for any assignment and that assignment can not commence prior to 18 hours on the first. Robo CNO call can be used to escalate you to SC at RES bid period minute-1, but can't be used for a trip. (see "Legal notification")
Please correct me if I'm mistaken as I go back and forth, and will intentionally 'orphan' RES days at the beginning of the new bid period.
I was told almost a year ago by the scheduling committee that this detail was going to be added to a revision of the SRH but I’ve yet to see it be added in. But the concept is in full force and scheduling follows it.
11-23-2025 | 04:21 PM
#4388
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PB Day Usage
Question to you PB day gurus. Is there a way to use PB day(s) on anything other than the earliest day(s) of a rotation? SRH seems to say no (pg 56, “the system will automatically place that PB Day(s) on the earliest day(s) of the rotation(s)”), but the collective trickery on this forum has me wondering if I’m reading wrong.
Situation - I have 2 PB days to burn and a rotation I want rid of that has an above ADG day 1 and a particularly valuable day 3 with a low value day 2.
Thank you!
Situation - I have 2 PB days to burn and a rotation I want rid of that has an above ADG day 1 and a particularly valuable day 3 with a low value day 2.
Thank you!
11-23-2025 | 04:25 PM
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Question to you PB day gurus. Is there a way to use PB day(s) on anything other than the earliest day(s) of a rotation? SRH seems to say no (pg 56, “the system will automatically place that PB Day(s) on the earliest day(s) of the rotation(s)”), but the collective trickery on this forum has me wondering if I’m reading wrong.
Situation - I have 2 PB days to burn and a rotation I want rid of that has an above ADG day 1 and a particularly valuable day 3 with a low value day 2.
Thank you!
Situation - I have 2 PB days to burn and a rotation I want rid of that has an above ADG day 1 and a particularly valuable day 3 with a low value day 2.
Thank you!
This is why finding a high time day 1 is so important to maximize the pay for using a PB for pay. The Perfect trip would be a 1-day with 7-8 hours of block and a couple hours of EDP, for 9-10 hours pay for 1 PB day. But those trips go extremely fast on the swap board, so you have to be constantly checking when the schedules start to release.
11-23-2025 | 04:28 PM
#4390
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Question to you PB day gurus. Is there a way to use PB day(s) on anything other than the earliest day(s) of a rotation? SRH seems to say no (pg 56, “the system will automatically place that PB Day(s) on the earliest day(s) of the rotation(s)”), but the collective trickery on this forum has me wondering if I’m reading wrong.
Situation - I have 2 PB days to burn and a rotation I want rid of that has an above ADG day 1 and a particularly valuable day 3 with a low value day 2.
Thank you!
Situation - I have 2 PB days to burn and a rotation I want rid of that has an above ADG day 1 and a particularly valuable day 3 with a low value day 2.
Thank you!
Use it on day 1, WS the trip and use it again. If any reserve days are black, you won't be able to drop and WS. It will be a Q drop that goes to someone else.
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