Reserve for Dummies
11-22-2025 | 09:36 AM
#4371
On Reserve
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1. Assignment is improperly assigned.
2. You either call them to remove it, or they remove it themselves. They might have even begun to assign you a trip within the SC window and realized then that the SC itself was improperly assigned.
3. If you acknowledged it in MiCrew or iCrew, you probably would have had to work it. Did you acknowledge it?
2. You either call them to remove it, or they remove it themselves. They might have even begun to assign you a trip within the SC window and realized then that the SC itself was improperly assigned.
3. If you acknowledged it in MiCrew or iCrew, you probably would have had to work it. Did you acknowledge it?
11-22-2025 | 09:40 AM
#4372
Roll’n Thunder
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I did not acknowledge. This makes me curious just in general, though... is there anything stopping the company from assigning someone SC, then removing it when the SC period approaches, even if it was assigned legally? Seems in that case you'd set yourself up to sit the short call (commuting in, getting a hotel potentially, cancelling plans, etc), then the company could just decide that it doesn't look like you'll be used and pull it to save a SCC. If you don't check your schedule during or before the SC I wouldn't even know I'd been removed.
11-22-2025 | 09:53 AM
#4373
On Reserve
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Originally Posted by Prospect
Company put SC on my schedule, first day of a reserve block after a day I was not contactable and was not a no-fly day, so it wasn't legal. Then, right before the SC was about to "begin" (without notification), they removed it. They want to play these stupid games and disregard the contract, and I was happy to take the SCC if I wasn't used. Can they remove the SC like that, right before I was scheduled to start it? Haven't been able to find an answer.
I’m not saying this is what happened here, but I wanted to make sure you (and anyone else reading this) are aware of PWA 23.S.5.d.2.b. CS can legally assign you a SC, beginning 10-18 hours after a non-fly day, without notifying you, so long as they put it on your schedule NLT 12 hours before the end of the non fly day. You are “responsible for ascertaining” whether you’ve been converted under 23.S.5.d.2.b.
Last edited by TheProfessor; 11-22-2025 at 09:58 AM. Reason: Broken tag
11-22-2025 | 10:36 AM
#4374
Line Holder
Joined: Oct 2024
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I did not acknowledge. This makes me curious just in general, though... is there anything stopping the company from assigning someone SC, then removing it when the SC period approaches, even if it was assigned legally? Seems in that case you'd set yourself up to sit the short call (commuting in, getting a hotel potentially, cancelling plans, etc), then the company could just decide that it doesn't look like you'll be used and pull it to save a SCC. If you don't check your schedule during or before the SC I wouldn't even know I'd been removed.
11-22-2025 | 10:55 AM
#4375
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Company put SC on my schedule, first day of a reserve block after a day I was not contactable and was not a no-fly day, so it wasn't legal. Then, right before the SC was about to "begin" (without notification), they removed it. They want to play these stupid games and disregard the contract, and I was happy to take the SCC if I wasn't used. Can they remove the SC like that, right before I was scheduled to start it? Haven't been able to find an answer.
11-22-2025 | 11:05 AM
#4376
Line Holder
Joined: Feb 2016
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From: 320
For any reserve folks, follow up to a previous post I did a few pages back about getting assigned a trip on SC out of order. So far in November, I have been assigned 3 trips on SC that went out of order. The first two I called CS'ing and had them remove me, the third one I ended up flying, as the other guy who was technically blocking for me ended up getting a trip too, and a worse one at that (I got a turn and he got a 3-day) so I didn't call them on it. I could see in the ICrew Daily Trip coverage the time stamp on when these two trips were covered, and they gave the senior guy me a trip before junior guy ahead of me on same SC period with same days avail in the same raw group. So, trust but verify I guess.
11-22-2025 | 11:30 AM
#4377
On Reserve
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Day prior was not a non-fly day, so I was not required to ascertain the SC. I got a CNO for it, but I was non-contactable.
11-22-2025 | 11:44 AM
#4378
Line Holder
Joined: Feb 2016
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Right, I get that you were coming off an off day, but they are allowed to assign you SC on day-1 of a reserve block, as long as it was dropped on your schedule by noon on that last off day. You're not required to be contactable for them to give you SC on day-1.
11-22-2025 | 12:33 PM
#4379
On Reserve
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What you are describing only applies if the last day before the reserve block was what the contract calls a non-fly day (though that's a misnomer). Vacation, training, going from line to reserve, etc... there's lots of reasons why the day prior to a reserve block might not be a "non-fly day" (even though you didn't fly) and therefore what you're describing is not true.
11-22-2025 | 12:34 PM
#4380
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Also, just for clarity, it’s most helpful to talk in hours, not time, when talking reserve rules. Not every LC day starts at 0000, but the rules still apply (as early as 10 hours after starting long call, if placed 12 hours before LC start time).
Edit: Prospect beat me to it by 1 minute.
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