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Old 11-17-2025 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
No. Your schedule is locked when you DDH to the scheduled time of the DH and any applicable pay.
Not any more.....pilots have been posting on widget book-face pages that when DDH, the rotation has been snapping back to original as awarded
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Old 11-17-2025 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Not any more.....pilots have been posting on widget book-face pages that when DDH, the rotation has been snapping back to original as awarded
Hopefully ALPA squashes that quickly. From the SRH (which is binding):

Delta pilots who deviate from a scheduled deadhead segment(s) will be considered to have traveled as scheduled.
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Old 11-17-2025 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Hopefully ALPA squashes that quickly. From the SRH (which is binding):
The company recently started interpreting “as scheduled” as “prior to all delays.”
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Old 11-17-2025 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dmhpilot
The company recently started interpreting “as scheduled” as “prior to all delays.”
Nothing to see here.. ALPA is screwing the company by adhering to past practice for the past 20+ years..

RG and the company are just doing all they can to collaborate with us on DDH issues

/sarcasm if that wasn’t readily apparent for some of you
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Old 11-17-2025 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Not any more.....pilots have been posting on widget book-face pages that when DDH, the rotation has been snapping back to original as awarded
Yes, you’ll see in my post that I said it locks to the scheduled DH time. I guess I should have clarified the original schedule, not any delayed “scheduled” departure time. So, for the OP assuming his DH was built and scheduled to block in at 2331 or later then he gets carve pay even if he DDH. If it was scheduled in at 2315 but shows delayed till 2345 he will not get carve as the DDH will lock back to the original schedule/pay. As others have said this is an impasse disagreement between the company and ALPA. I myself have a case lost in the abyss waiting for some resolution to this dispute.
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Old 11-17-2025 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
Yes, you’ll see in my post that I said it locks to the scheduled DH time. I guess I should have clarified the original schedule, not any delayed “scheduled” departure time. So, for the OP assuming his DH was built and scheduled to block in at 2331 or later then he gets carve pay even if he DDH. If it was scheduled in at 2315 but shows delayed till 2345 he will not get carve as the DDH will lock back to the original schedule/pay. As others have said this is an impasse disagreement between the company and ALPA. I myself have a case lost in the abyss waiting for some resolution to this dispute.
I genuinely do not understand why the company picks these fights. In the grand scheme of things, it is literally pennies. Budget dust.

And the Goodwill they squander by continually kicking the sand in our face, while gaslighting us with protestations like RG put out last week… Then wonder why we are salty. This is the slow fade for how it happens.
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Old 11-20-2025 | 05:48 AM
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What if I told you there is a Mandela effect in play with what the pilot group thinks “has always happened” when you DDH and that iCrew has never been programmed to take a snapshot of your rotation when you deviate?

The deviate deadhead SnapBack to original scheduled times has always existed for the sake of capturing per diem calculations. Any old cases that the scheduling committee have found pertaining to deviate deadhead snapshot have not supported the claims people make on social media. However, there are obvious implications with the new soft pay items as well as some potential FAR issues that the company hasn’t dedicated the programming to fix.
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Old 11-22-2025 | 07:42 AM
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Company put SC on my schedule, first day of a reserve block after a day I was not contactable and was not a no-fly day, so it wasn't legal. Then, right before the SC was about to "begin" (without notification), they removed it. They want to play these stupid games and disregard the contract, and I was happy to take the SCC if I wasn't used. Can they remove the SC like that, right before I was scheduled to start it? Haven't been able to find an answer.
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Old 11-22-2025 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Prospect
Company put SC on my schedule, first day of a reserve block after a day I was not contactable and was not a no-fly day, so it wasn't legal. Then, right before the SC was about to "begin" (without notification), they removed it. They want to play these stupid games and disregard the contract, and I was happy to take the SCC if I wasn't used. Can they remove the SC like that, right before I was scheduled to start it? Haven't been able to find an answer.
If it's an illegal assignment as you said, then isn't that what you'd expect them to do anyway?
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Old 11-22-2025 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Prospect
Company put SC on my schedule, first day of a reserve block after a day I was not contactable and was not a no-fly day, so it wasn't legal. Then, right before the SC was about to "begin" (without notification), they removed it. They want to play these stupid games and disregard the contract, and I was happy to take the SCC if I wasn't used. Can they remove the SC like that, right before I was scheduled to start it? Haven't been able to find an answer.
1. Assignment is improperly assigned.

2. You either call them to remove it, or they remove it themselves. They might have even begun to assign you a trip within the SC window and realized then that the SC itself was improperly assigned.

3. If you acknowledged it in MiCrew or iCrew, you probably would have had to work it. Did you acknowledge it?
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