Reserve for Dummies
#4391
On Reserve
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Nope, Has to start on the first day of a trip. IF you were to use 2 PB days on a trip, it would be on day 1 and 2.
This is why finding a high time day 1 is so important to maximize the pay for using a PB for pay. The Perfect trip would be a 1-day with 7-8 hours of block and a couple hours of EDP, for 9-10 hours pay for 1 PB day. But those trips go extremely fast on the swap board, so you have to be constantly checking when the schedules start to release.
This is why finding a high time day 1 is so important to maximize the pay for using a PB for pay. The Perfect trip would be a 1-day with 7-8 hours of block and a couple hours of EDP, for 9-10 hours pay for 1 PB day. But those trips go extremely fast on the swap board, so you have to be constantly checking when the schedules start to release.
#4392
Roll’n Thunder
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: Pilot
Thank you, makes sense. For junior types such as myself who very rarely can ever touch a high time one day, is there a smarter way to burn PB days other than applying it to any day(s) above vacation value (or buying vacation days if you want the guaranteed time off)?
#4393
This is the kind of nugget that I love.
Not every day 'off' is a RES 'non-fly day'. Example: the last day of a REG month before starting a RES month, even if you're not flying, is not a RES 'non-fly day'. You are not contactable and have no required schedule check.
If you are on RES on the 1st day of the new bid period coming from REG you have no required schedule check and you're not even required to 'ascertain if something's been put on your schedule'. CS must legally contact you for any assignment and that assignment can not commence prior to 18 hours on the first. Robo CNO call can be used to escalate you to SC at RES bid period minute-1, but can't be used for a trip. (see "Legal notification")
Please correct me if I'm mistaken as I go back and forth, and will intentionally 'orphan' RES days at the beginning of the new bid period.
Not every day 'off' is a RES 'non-fly day'. Example: the last day of a REG month before starting a RES month, even if you're not flying, is not a RES 'non-fly day'. You are not contactable and have no required schedule check.
If you are on RES on the 1st day of the new bid period coming from REG you have no required schedule check and you're not even required to 'ascertain if something's been put on your schedule'. CS must legally contact you for any assignment and that assignment can not commence prior to 18 hours on the first. Robo CNO call can be used to escalate you to SC at RES bid period minute-1, but can't be used for a trip. (see "Legal notification")
Please correct me if I'm mistaken as I go back and forth, and will intentionally 'orphan' RES days at the beginning of the new bid period.
There is only ONE time you have a mandatory schedule check, and that's for a RES pilot finishing a rotation MUST check their schedule via either Icrew or VRU (no MiCrew) within 30 minutes of block in.
The 23.S.5.d.2.b states "A pilot is responsible for ascertaining whether they have been assigned a rotation or converted to short call..." but it doesn't state the *when* or the *how*
Could a pilot check their Icrew right at 12 hours prior in order to take a screen shot as proof incase they have to defend themselves in the CPO? Yes. they can.
But a pilot could also wait until the stroke of midnight and check then as they just went back on LC.
Or maybe a local pilot waits to check his schedule at 0630 during morning coffee because even if he has a 1000 SC or Rotation report, still has plenty of time to shower/sh!t/shave and make it to airport by 10.
And for anyone else reading, this applies to coming off *ANY* Non fly day (except vacation)....XX day, Golden * Day, rest > 24 hours, PB Day, PR Day.
It does NOT apply when coming off things like CQ, or Propel, or Velvet....those are work days...they are not "non fly" days, so you have ZERO "responsible for ascertaining"....so sit back and wait for scheduler or CNO to contact you (during LC) to let you know of any assignment.
#4394
On Reserve
Joined: Mar 2023
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Thank you, makes sense. For junior types such as myself who very rarely can ever touch a high time one day, is there a smarter way to burn PB days other than applying it to any day(s) above vacation value (or buying vacation days if you want the guaranteed time off)?
If that doesn't work you can usually find 3-4 day trips that have 8-8.5 hours of block on day 1. Although not quite as lucrative, it still pays more than letting the PB day convert to a SUPP day.
#4395
Thank you, makes sense. For junior types such as myself who very rarely can ever touch a high time one day, is there a smarter way to burn PB days other than applying it to any day(s) above vacation value (or buying vacation days if you want the guaranteed time off)?
#4396
Alternative methods include looking at trip coverage or rotation history under Open Time Menu > Open Time > Pilot History. No need to "risk" peeking 12 hours prior just for the sake of holding the company accountable.
#4397
Line Holder
Joined: Jul 2023
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#4398
Can’t find crew pickup
Joined: Jun 2021
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I’d love to be wrong, having to call and ask them if they did it right seems like Lucy with the football.
#4399
Roll’n Thunder
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: Pilot
I’ll be honest as a regular reserve bidder (is that an oxymoron?) I haven’t once seen scheduling assign a SC outside the automated run that occurs between 1100 and 1200 Mecca time each day. Once that programming was implemented it really seems like schedulers have almost no control over the assigning of the slots (and they don’t understand how the automation works either). I’m not saying it never happens but 99% of the time if you have a SC on your schedule it was placed between 1100 and 1200 eastern. Now if you have a PR that ends at 23xx then the exact time does matter, so there are still certainly instances where you would want to find out the specific time stamp of the SC assignment.
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