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12-10-2025 | 05:26 PM
#4431
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I wouldn't call it a 2 hour grey area. It's pilot and day specific. If you can get there in 1 hour, cool. 3 hours? Great. Just let them know what time you'll be there if you can't make report.
If scheduling calls and "asks" if you can do it in 30 minutes, they're violating the PWA and need to be reported to ALPA.
If scheduling calls and "asks" if you can do it in 30 minutes, they're violating the PWA and need to be reported to ALPA.
12-10-2025 | 05:42 PM
#4433
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12-11-2025 | 06:26 AM
#4436
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From: Pilot
So for a GS award, if you have 2359 SC tomorrow, you can get a GS today, but not on the day that the SC starts (even if it's only 1 minute of that day). Put another way, a 2359 SC counts on the day it starts, not the day it bleeds into.
12-11-2025 | 06:37 AM
#4437
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If you're talking about for bidding them, it is based on the report time. So a 2359 SC on the 12th would be awarded on today's automated SC assignment run as a next day SC award, just like a 1000, 1200, 1800, etc SC tomorrow would aslo be.
So for a GS award, if you have 2359 SC tomorrow, you can get a GS today, but not on the day that the SC starts (even if it's only 1 minute of that day). Put another way, a 2359 SC counts on the day it starts, not the day it bleeds into.
So for a GS award, if you have 2359 SC tomorrow, you can get a GS today, but not on the day that the SC starts (even if it's only 1 minute of that day). Put another way, a 2359 SC counts on the day it starts, not the day it bleeds into.
12-11-2025 | 06:49 AM
#4438
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From: Pilot
1. You can get a same day GS even if you have a next day or second day assignment already on your schedule
2. You can get a next day GS even if you already have a second day assignment already on your schedule.
You cannot get a GS that conflicts with an assignment on the same day. SRH page 49 spells out what I just typed out.
12-11-2025 | 07:01 AM
#4439
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From: N60.4858 W149.9327
There is no provision for getting a futher out GS with a closer in SC/rotation assignment. There are only 2 things guaranteed:
1. You can get a same day GS even if you have a next day or second day assignment already on your schedule
2. You can get a next day GS even if you already have a second day assignment already on your schedule.
You cannot get a GS that conflicts with an assignment on the same day. SRH page 49 spells out what I just typed out.
1. You can get a same day GS even if you have a next day or second day assignment already on your schedule
2. You can get a next day GS even if you already have a second day assignment already on your schedule.
You cannot get a GS that conflicts with an assignment on the same day. SRH page 49 spells out what I just typed out.
Last edited by notEnuf; 12-11-2025 at 07:14 AM.
12-11-2025 | 07:32 AM
#4440
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If I understand this correctly... (my GS award was well before my 2100-0300 SC and did not conflict with it and the trip started 5 hours after the SC would have ended next day) They are claiming the SC was not removed at their discretion therefore I would not have rest prior to the next day GS. The thing I wonder about is their discretion to not remove the SC. This exact scenario has always resulted in the SC being removed and my GS awarded. It says next day can't prevent the GS, they are saying they have discretion to not remove the same day starting SCs even if there's adequate rest prior and no other issues. This is the first time I've had a GS removed for 23.Q.6.c. exception so I want to understand it. Thanks for the ref.
The SC is "owned" by the day on which it begins (in this case, same-day.) The GS for next day would have required the removal of some part of the SC to allow for rest. But since that SC is "owned" by same-day, they aren't required to drop or modify it to accommodate for the next-day GS.
The Exception you cited would apply to a SC that begins (is "owned" by) next-day, but that's not the case here.
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