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09-24-2022 | 03:41 PM

#651

tennisguru

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Originally Posted by StartngOvr

That’s what I thought. Any carve outs for if it’s a line check?

I’m not aware of any.

09-24-2022 | 03:57 PM

#652

StartngOvr

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Originally Posted by StartngOvr

Reserve assigned to fly a one day trip that releases after midnight on my TOFF day. Kosher?

Edit: Last leg is deadhead and scheduled block in is 2359. Am I recalling correct that debrief time for a back end deadhead is 0 minutes?

09-24-2022 | 04:00 PM

#653

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Originally Posted by StartngOvr

Edit: Last leg is deadhead and scheduled block in is 2359. Am I recalling correct that debrief time for a back end deadhead is 0 minutes?

Release is still 30 minutes after block in.

09-24-2022 | 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by StartngOvr

That’s what I thought. Any carve outs for if it’s a line check?

Had that happen to me too, only an early sign in. Scheduling said they can’t remove it since it’s a training trip. ACE report filed.

09-24-2022 | 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms

Had that happen to me too, only an early sign in. Scheduling said they can’t remove it since it’s a training trip. ACE report filed.

Call the duty pilot and ask to speak to the scheduling rep at the OCC. Training has zero to do with trip assignments.

09-24-2022 | 06:05 PM

#656

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Call the duty pilot and ask to speak to the scheduling rep at the OCC. Training has zero to do with trip assignments.

I bid reserve and it popped up on my schedule 4 days in advance so it had to be OE/training that assigned it. It certainly wasn’t a regular reserve callout. Hopefully ACE sorts it out, but duty pilot isn’t a bad idea if it happens again. Definitely seemed a PWA violation.

09-24-2022 | 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Call the duty pilot and ask to speak to the scheduling rep at the OCC. Training has zero to do with trip assignments.

Spoke to duty pilot and scheduling and got nowhere. They insist it’s fine through 0200. Training scheduling obviously not gonna help on a weekend.

Will fire up the ACE app(again.)

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09-24-2022 | 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by StartngOvr

Pretty sure that’s garbage. 0200 has to do with another day of ADG. Otherwise, being scheduled into X days is completely based on midnight. Step 22 in the outside of 12 hours ladder. There’s no carve out for line checks that I’m aware of.

Only case that I can think of that this is kosher would be if this is OE, in which case they own you no matter what you bid.

09-25-2022 | 03:30 AM

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FangsF15

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Originally Posted by StartngOvr

They are 100% wrong. As Iceberg said, 0200 ONLY deals with ADG calculations.

Call back and speak with a different scheduler, then a different supervisor. Also, I would FCR that when it’s all done, and give the day/time of Duty Pilot and scheduler for accountability. They need formal correction.

Also, calling with the PWA reference helps, but is no guarantee that will change their mind.