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Old 11-06-2025 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
in which way? I don’t see this being a black swan event. It might cause issues for sure. But I think if we limit the term “black swan” to sudden things that cause significant long term damage to the industry, this won’t be close.

but it will certainly create issues that may compound for awhile. Even if the gov opens tomorrow.
The government just announced they are going to force the airlines to cut 10 percent of their schedules in certain markets. I guarantee you every major hub is on that list. If it’s not enough, they’ll force more. You don’t think a 10 percent forced reduction in flight schedules is a big deal? What if the government is shut down for a year? Eventually, the entire TSA and the controllers will just quit. This absolutely has potential to get really bad for us.
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Old 11-06-2025 | 04:38 AM
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The government just announced they are going to force the airlines to cut 10 percent of their schedules in certain markets. I guarantee you every major hub is on that list. If it’s not enough, they’ll force more. You don’t think a 10 percent forced reduction in flight schedules is a big deal? What if the government is shut down for a year? Eventually, the entire TSA and the controllers will just quit. This absolutely has potential to get really bad for us.
Delta is a big ship with a small rudder. covid reminded us of that. Today Delta is doing strategic planning for 2027 and beyond, not reacting to the cat fights in DC happening this week.

All that’s gonna happen is for November and hopefully into December a good percentage of us will get some phenomenal rerouted pay and get to go home early on some trips. Sounds like winning for the pilots to me!
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Old 11-06-2025 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by game
Delta is a big ship with a small rudder. covid reminded us of that. Today Delta is doing strategic planning for 2027 and beyond, not reacting to the cat fights in DC happening this week.

All that’s gonna happen is for November and hopefully into December a good percentage of us will get some phenomenal rerouted pay and get to go home early on some trips. Sounds like winning for the pilots to me!
Somehow your hopes and dreams seem out of touch with common sense.
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Old 11-06-2025 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
The government just announced they are going to force the airlines to cut 10 percent of their schedules in certain markets. I guarantee you every major hub is on that list. If it’s not enough, they’ll force more. You don’t think a 10 percent forced reduction in flight schedules is a big deal? What if the government is shut down for a year? Eventually, the entire TSA and the controllers will just quit. This absolutely has potential to get really bad for us.
Now it’s 4%, down from 10%.

The government shutdown will end soon, and certainly not last “a year.”

You can relax.
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Old 11-06-2025 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Viper25
Now it’s 4%, down from 10%.
I think it's 4% this weekend ramping up to 10% on Monday. But once airliner's government affairs people get in touch with the administration, I bet we'll see some changes.

Airplane and trip construction makes it very hard to just axe "only" 10% without a huge mess. How do you get the crew or airplanes to their next leg?
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Old 11-06-2025 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
The government just announced they are going to force the airlines to cut 10 percent of their schedules in certain markets. I guarantee you every major hub is on that list. If it’s not enough, they’ll force more. You don’t think a 10 percent forced reduction in flight schedules is a big deal? What if the government is shut down for a year? Eventually, the entire TSA and the controllers will just quit. This absolutely has potential to get really bad for us.
a 10% reduction (now 4%) over a random non holiday weekend in November won’t even be a blip on our long term radar. Crowd strike was an epic week long meltdown that started on one of the busiest travel days of the year, and we still made $5B last year.

no way this shutdown lasts another month let alone a year. I can’t even see it lasting through the weekend before thanksgiving. ATC just got their second $0.00 paycheck and I’m expecting this weekend to absolutely fall apart. Most Americans tolerance for an ideological crusade will vanish once they realize it might ruin their holiday plans. Hopefully the senate gets their head out of their @$$ and pays our ATC and TSA.
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Old 11-06-2025 | 06:04 AM
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Somehow your hopes and dreams seem out of touch with common sense.

Every pilot I’ve ever talked to at Delta agrees with my hopes and dreams: to fly as little as possible and make as much money as possible. This latest development helps with both. Weird that you want to make less money and work more, but you do you.
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Old 11-06-2025 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
The government just announced they are going to force the airlines to cut 10 percent of their schedules in certain markets. I guarantee you every major hub is on that list. If it’s not enough, they’ll force more. You don’t think a 10 percent forced reduction in flight schedules is a big deal? What if the government is shut down for a year? Eventually, the entire TSA and the controllers will just quit. This absolutely has potential to get really bad for us.
If this causes TSA to fall apart and everyone there to quit then sign me up.
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Old 11-06-2025 | 07:12 AM
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I think it's gonna be a while. 2 words... Widebody domestic.
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Old 11-06-2025 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by game
Every pilot I’ve ever talked to at Delta agrees with my hopes and dreams: to fly as little as possible and make as much money as possible. This latest development helps with both. Weird that you want to make less money and work more, but you do you.
So, I imagine when older pilots support age 67, you would call them greedy because their extra 2 years of, "work less make more" good fortune, would come at your expense....therefore they are GREEDY.

But when you want to work less and make more on the backs of the traveling public & the company....that is righteous?

I don't look gift horses in the mouth, by the same token, I don't actively wish for/root for ill will/hardships on others, so that I can reap unexpected windfalls. But, you do you
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