Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 1273299)

That is factually incorrect. While it is customary to submit communications to the Comm Chairman for review, and edits and corrections are frequently incorporated it is not mandatory to do so, nor binding.

LEC communications and opinion, while usually supportive and complimentary, are independent of the MEC. If you have read the perspectives and opinion of 1, 20, 54, and occasionally others who express a counterpoint it is quite evident they were not "approved" and endorsed prior to publishing.

Reference the contact survey it was comprehensive, with a high level of participation from all demographics and categories and provided statically accurate highly valid data. There were both general "improve this" as we'll as very specific values. It provided clear direction. The MEC's job was to filter the achievable from the unrealistic (i.e. we want everything) and prioritize. It is a source of ongoing discussion of how well that, and the direction of the MEC was followed, aka "navel lint" and "hammering at our foundations"

Originally Posted by fisherpilot (Post 1273304)

I miss reading Carl's posts..... We have to get him out of retirement and start posting again.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1273141)

By all accounts, the C2012 missed guidance by formal polling from the membership by a pretty wide margin. Is that not statistical evidence enough? How can they say they have the will of the pilot group when they directly ignored the polling that told them what it was?

As far as the voting result for the contract, C2012 was passed after serious propaganda saying "you arent going to get any better- don't you want new airplanes?" from both ALPA and management. 38% of the group voted no on it and many that voted yes begrudgingly did so as a result of the propaganda campaign.... moving that 38% margin much closer to at least the 50% mark.

So no, the representatives don't necessarily have it right by the statements in your first paragraph.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1273312)

Time of year to get out the MD88 study materials again.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1273276)

Anyone remember how we used to fly 777-200ERs JFK to BOM and then ATL-BOM on the LRs, but pulled it due to air india starting to fly 777-200s?

They appreciate it.

Now Air India featuring much larger 777-300ERs JFK-BOM.

Originally Posted by From around 2002

NEW DELHI: ... Air-India has decided to ink a three-way agreement with the Air France-Delta combine.


The pact allows Delta of the US to fly six times a week on this sector while Air-India will get royalty on three flights.

Interestingly, these flights will carry the codes of both Air France and Delta while Air-India will benefit from royalty payments on these flights.

On the three flights operated by Air France, the national carrier will enjoy code-sharing on two flights. The proposed commercial arrangement compares with the earlier system of Air-India enjoying a code-share agreement with Air France on 3 flights every week.

A-I is signing a connect code-share agreement with Delta Airways of the US, which operates a global alliance with Air France, to give effect to the proposed plan, highly-placed sources in the Civil Aviation Ministry said.

Delta, which was earlier flying from Mumbai to Frankfurt on way to the US, will now fly through the French capital. That would leave Lufthansa as the lone player on the Mumbai-Frankfurt sector.

The series of changes follow Air France's decision to reduce its frequency to Mumbai by three flights. The reduction in frequency come into effect last month, the sources said.

However, Air France is operating bigger aeroplanes on the Mumbai-Paris sector and this ensure that capacity is not cut down 50 per cent.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1273312)

Time of year to get out the MD88 study materials again.

Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1273105)

Were you there? Do you have a signed NDA with the company? Then I'm guessing your conjecture is as baseless as mine.

Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1272848)

I give up on UGA!!!! They have more players in the NFL than any other college program and that is the crap that they present on the field. CMR has to go!!!! Take that aptly named OC with you too. Kudos to the OBC for turning an also ran program around, although I think Lou Holtz got the ball rolling for him. Oh, and why do the UGA cornerbacks have to give a 10 to 15 yard cushion on every play? I could catch a pass with that much cushion.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1273322)

Your flight test thing on your avatar ain't so funny when two of the trips in open time today are for test pilots. :D

Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 1273113)

Scambo, you lost me on that one, I was never good at word math but I think B gets screwed in your example and I don't think anybody is that good a friend, but I agree that somebody will figure out how to scam the system. I still like the idea of swapping with friends but if it keeps getting abused.......?