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Check Essential 12-11-2012 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1309464)
Maybe those JV protections in the new deal were worth something after all.

They've been worth squat so far.
The company has pretty much just ignored the production balances.

And our contract is really gonna hammer them for it.
In about three years. Give or take. Maybe. After adjustments and more talks.

Sink r8 12-11-2012 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1309458)
Yeah, poor New York. THey've gone from 900 pilots to 1300 pilots since the merger and added equipment.

Slow, I think you just got paged over at the TOTD thread.

You medalled.

Go quick, or you'll miss the anthem.

Bucking Bar 12-11-2012 03:02 PM

Never mind, I am being redundant.

Sink r8 12-11-2012 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1309458)
...here's some other possibilities that you haven't mentioned, like the MSP reps were briefed but don't remember because they were too busy practical joking and zip-tying people's luggage together, or they misrepresented their lack of knowlege. Yeah, the implications are troublesome.:rolleyes:

Ask them about the great prank with the sex toy in front of female staff members....

I gagged on the New York comment, and missed this gem.

Are you having some sort of weird meltdown? Is this some weird inside politics thing, and if so, can you guys do it over on the ALPA forum?

Bucking Bar 12-11-2012 03:14 PM

Slowplay's report was news to me. I've heard their best, Garrison Keillor, and reached the conclusion a sense of humor couldn't survive the winters.

SFWB 12-11-2012 03:20 PM

Nu, Thanks for blowing the plot of all those Star Trek films. I don't mind. I loved the red shirted guys in the real Star Trek. I didn't have to remember their names.

flyallnite 12-11-2012 03:22 PM

Slow, and others, I just see this as different than the AK flying which I'm sorry but I do think is doing more harm than good. I don't buy the whole "we'd only be flying to NRT if it weren't for Alaska" concept.

This is different. We're talking about an airport that is completely closed off to us, in the biggest, richest air market in the world. This gets us in that market big time. Does anyone think or hear the AA pilots complaining about BA/AA? Its keeping them in business. We are talking hundreds of millions in revenue from NYC alone, some of which will come at AAs expense.

Bar I totally agree that we're getting the short end on the 3 year JV window. It's past time for our union to do whatever it's going to take to ensure that we get out share of the flying- whether it's on Alaska's routes or Air France or Virgin Atlantic, and if I were them I'd be telling the company that if they want to keep playing ball, we need that issue to be addressed before this gets our support. I've already told my reps as much, and I recommend every one do the same, or at least give your input on the matter.

tsquare 12-11-2012 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1309458)
Yeah, poor New York. THey've gone from 900 pilots to 1300 pilots since the merger and added equipment.



There's some other possibilities that you haven't mentioned, like the MSP reps were briefed but don't remember because they were too busy practical joking and zip-tying people's luggage together, or they misrepresented their lack of knowlege. Yeah, the implications are troublesome.:rolleyes:

Ask them about the great prank with the sex toy in front of female staff members....

While that might be true slow.. the ER category has been trashed in the 11 years I have been on it. WE have gone form all international to somewhere around 20%. Sorry if I don't share your enthusiasm.

boog123 12-11-2012 04:15 PM

and pay no attention to the 800 or so LESS TOTAL Jobs, but hey, it was a nice try at deflection.

flyallnite 12-11-2012 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 1309613)
and pay no attention to the 800 or so LESS TOTAL Jobs, but hey, it was a nice try at deflection.

That's our fault. We gave up a lot of productivity in the TA for relatively little in return. One of many reasons I voted against it.


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