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XtremeF150 12-11-2012 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1309432)
NAHHHH,

ALPA is too busy trying to keep Pilot minimums as low as possible to help DCI management. After all, if Congress, despite ALPAs resistance, were to raise minimums, Pilot compensation might have to rise and we wouldn't want that, would we? :confused:

I guess ALPA was absent the day they taught supply and demand in school.

Scoop :cool:


From todays ALPA blast:

ALPA, joined by Airlines for America and the Regional Airline Association, wrote FAA Acting Administrator Huerta to urge the agency to grant flight-hour credit to current pilots based on their airline training and experience as they draft new regulations to raise certification standards for newly hired airline pilots. This flexibility is important to ALPA pilots who have been flying for a CONSIDERABLE (Really?) amount of time, but who may not meet the requirements needed to possess an airline transport pilot (ATP) certificate. An ATP certificate will be required by law for all pilots in FAR 121 operations effective August 2, 2013.
Granting experienced and professional pilots credit for their training and employment experience will allow them to qualify for a new “restricted” ATP that will ensure ALPA pilots remain in the air and do not experience a break in employment as a result of the new rules.
ALPA also urged the FAA to act quickly and issue a final rule on the ATP requirement before August 1, 2013. Read the letter.

Kind of backstepping there if you ask me. This thing has been a reality long enough that if they don't have the 1500 by next fall let the idiots that hired them at this level knowing this rule was a reality foot the bill to get the rest of their hours. Obviously forward thinking is and was not in the requirement for the hiring departments. I highly doubt there are but a handful of pilots that this could possibly affect. So I hope we don't use to much money from the PAC or dues chasing after this one.

On a side note at least this JV or whatever it turns into has made us forget about the pesky PA's and such. Just sad you have to break a limb to forget you stubbed your toe. :rolleyes:

Here is to hoping we can all have some drinks in LHR on layover one day.

FlyZ 12-11-2012 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1309721)
I grabbed this info off flight aware just because I was curious. Now I admit this is only one or two days in mid December and does not reflect a years worth of operations.

So fwiw...

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...id/Temp5-2.png

Now let's pretend for a moment the numbers are not only right but indicative of the overall situation. To me it makes me not like JVs because of what I see there with us and AF in JFK and ATL. Even though I know we make some flying up in ORD or PIT in the like.

For the VA JV, I can see what they're doing. But it's the JV with AF that makes me worried that's where we'll head to especially since we might not have many token cities because of LHR slot controls.

I don't know, just my two cents.

That is amazing and sad. Flights between both airlines' major hubs, so you would think it would be about even. But it's not even close.

Standby for the same thing to happen at LHR. I think management was smart to do this at a point where our European flying is so pulled back. If our main protection is that our block hours cannot drop below the same three months from a year ago, it simply means our flying will stay the same while they get all the growth as the economy recovers (sometime). I see the brilliant VAustralia agreement ALPA is so proud of as working the same way.

boog123 12-11-2012 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1309710)
I'd like to hear the opinion on these JV from AF pilots or Virgin Australia pilots. I wonder what they think of these things. Do they actually talk about it and say we are stealing their routes and jobs and such? I wonder if the AF guys aren't happy they lost some of their routes to us like PIT and SEA ( not sure if that is true just examples).

Want me to tell you what my ALK and Hawaiian buddies say?

forgot to bid 12-11-2012 08:25 PM

added subtotals for AF seating

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...id/Temp5-5.png

forgot to bid 12-11-2012 09:04 PM

wow, a 6 leg 3-day worth 19 hours on the MD90?

That's just crazy talk.

Think more like under 2 hours from short call call out to go. That's normal talk.



things you learn from reading reserve coverage.

LivingTheDream 12-12-2012 02:51 AM


Originally Posted by sinca3 (Post 1309539)
What an A-hole comment to make about your fellow pilots, those you supposedly work either for or with?
Since the merger how much has the combined pilot group grown?

Johnso29,

I'm trying to understand this tos thing of which you write. I picture of a phallic bubble gets pulled (don't disagree) but sinca3 can post both a prophane avatar and prophanity laced post? (Of course sinca's only one example...just that his avatar is over the top.)

I really wish our society in general, could re-discover the art of civil discourse. Not just on anonymous web boards, but in all areas of life. :(

slowplay 12-12-2012 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1309568)
Slow, I think you just got paged over at the TOTD thread.

You medalled.

Go quick, or you'll miss the anthem.

I rushed right over....

btw, that was nicely and artfully done. You're pretty good when you're mad.

UncleSam 12-12-2012 04:43 AM

Just pulled from DLNet

December 11, 2012


Richard praised Air Line Pilots Association’s Lee Moak in a Street.com profile that called Moak a visionary union leader who helped pave the way for significant changes in the state of labor relations in the industry that have benefitted Delta pilots.

Richard praised Moak’s relationships with Delta executives and added that "his father was a marine sergeant and Lee was a marine fighter pilot, so when you're talking about someone with discipline and determination, you're talking about Lee Moak. He is also polite, and that makes him effective.”

The story outlined how Moak’s approach to contentious issues such as Delta’s restructuring and contract talks stepped away from the traditional adversarial tactics in order to create a healthier airline that offered more opportunities for Delta pilots.

"I think that Lee has broken the mold and proven that when we all cooperate, the industry does better and the employees do better,” Richard continued. “(At Delta) we have moved from a regulated era of 'us vs. them' to 'we're all in this together,' and we trust each other and work together to make our airline successful.”

Moak, a 55-year-old native of Tulsa, Okla., who resides in New Orleans, was elected chairman of the Delta ALPA chapter in August 2005, a month before the carrier began its restructuring. He served three terms until January 2011, when he took office as ALPA’s national president.

FedElta 12-12-2012 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by UncleSam (Post 1309828)
Just pulled from DLNet

December 11, 2012


Richard praised Air Line Pilots Association’s Lee Moak in a Street.com profile that called Moak a visionary union leader who helped pave the way for significant changes in the state of labor relations in the industry that have benefitted Delta pilots.

Richard praised Moak’s relationships with Delta executives and added that "his father was a marine sergeant and Lee was a marine fighter pilot, so when you're talking about someone with discipline and determination, you're talking about Lee Moak. He is also polite, and that makes him effective.”

The story outlined how Moak’s approach to contentious issues such as Delta’s restructuring and contract talks stepped away from the traditional adversarial tactics in order to create a healthier airline that offered more opportunities for Delta pilots.

"I think that Lee has broken the mold and proven that when we all cooperate, the industry does better and the employees do better,” Richard continued. “(At Delta) we have moved from a regulated era of 'us vs. them' to 'we're all in this together,' and we trust each other and work together to make our airline successful.”

Moak, a 55-year-old native of Tulsa, Okla., who resides in New Orleans, was elected chairman of the Delta ALPA chapter in August 2005, a month before the carrier began its restructuring. He served three terms until January 2011, when he took office as ALPA’s national president.

Hmmmmmmmm??

scambo1 12-12-2012 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by FedElta (Post 1309833)
Hmmmmmmmm??


I see you are polite too.;)


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