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Bucking Bar 05-22-2014 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1649289)
Little birdie says SDP's dropped from TA, 12-hour leash instead of 13 hours.

That's a fast birdie...

Yep ... but don't count chickens before they hatch.

Purple Drank 05-22-2014 11:30 AM

edit: deleted.

I'll hack my clock and wait for the official details

is it a non-ackdnowldege 12-hour leash or the "SD" 2-hour window?

LeineLodge 05-22-2014 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1649297)
"nearly no give?"
Are you on reserve?

I suspect this was the company's desired end state, and the SDPs were a red herring to get there.

^^^^^No surprise here :cool:

Bucking Bar 05-22-2014 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1649262)
...did no such thing. You totally made up the accusation.

Carl

He did, in his own words ... you keep bringing it up after I asked the mods to redact his name. Now I have to flag your post also :rolleyes:

As we all should know by now our MEC did some tough work, together.

When there is blood in the water some react by bringing first aid kits; others respond like sharks. It was way too early for some to publically threaten recall and for erstwhile politicians to clarify positions. I don't know if that's what was happening, but that is sure what it appeared to be.

iaflyer 05-22-2014 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1649292)
At the meeting. Open session.

Split Duty Periods removed from the agreement completely.

ADG 5:15 remains.

LC from 13 to 12.

A few reps are still pandering by pushing for memrat. Text your reps now to tell them we no longer need memrat. This deal is now a huge gain for us with nearly NO give.

Excellent job by the MEC sticking up for the pilot group.

Is this what they are going to pass and send back the company? The company could reject it, correct?

I'm happy without the SDP.

Sink r8 05-22-2014 11:38 AM

I can definitely live with the LC remaining at 12 hours, and I can live with 10 hours on first day of Reserve. This is from a guy that's going to fly Reserve a lot.

The ADG at 5:15 (AND parity for Reserve) for Reserve is going to be huge. I've been arguing that Reserves should be paid same as Regular for a long, long time.

I don't know how we got here, and I don't know how SDP's got dropped, but they were my one (significant) concern with this 117 TA.

Unless I'm missing something, and there better not be a new hidden turd in it, it's time to wrap this thing up.

Bucking Bar 05-22-2014 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1649307)
I can definitely live with the LC remaining at 12 hours, and I can live with 10 hours on first day of Reserve. This is from a guy that's going to fly Reserve a lot.

The ADG at 5:15 (AND parity for Reserve) for Reserve is going to be huge. I've been arguing that Reserves should be paid same as Regular for a long, long time.

I don't know how we got here, and I don't know how SDP's got dropped, but they were my one (significant) concern with this 117 TA.

Unless I'm missing something, and there better not be a new hidden turd in it, it's time to wrap this thing up.

Yep and Sink, you've been very spot on with this.

Check Essential 05-22-2014 11:40 AM

The rank and file membership rose up.
The rank and file membership was heard.

Ferd149 05-22-2014 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1649307)
I can definitely live with the LC remaining at 12 hours, and I can live with 10 hours on first day of Reserve. This is from a guy that's going to fly Reserve a lot.

The ADG at 5:15 (AND parity for Reserve) for Reserve is going to be huge. I've been arguing that Reserves should be paid same as Regular for a long, long time.

I don't know how we got here, and I don't know how SDP's got dropped, but they were my one (significant) concern with this 117 TA.

Unless I'm missing something, and there better not be a new hidden turd in it, it's time to wrap this thing up.

Yeah I can live that too I guess.

Would be nice if we could get something that keeps the first reserve day from being short call (I hate going up the night before on a day off vs a long call day) but I know that will never happen:D

Chive on dudes, who knew the reps read L&G during session:cool:

Sink r8 05-22-2014 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1649309)
The rank and file membership rose up.
The rank and file membership was heard.

Sure seems like it! I was hoping for MEMRAT a) for philosophical reasons, and b) because I thought the group should make the call. But the pros didn't seem to make up for the cons. I voted for C2012, but I honestly have to say I could not vote for this TA with SDP's.

It's just that I was willing to see proof that the group really wanted to make that trade.

Seems like we didn't.

How many guys did you see at the meeting, CE? Were they... unambiguous on this issue?


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