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TheManager 03-17-2015 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Karnak (Post 1844530)
Could you do us all a favor and take your bully act somewhere else? Slowplay posted some useful advice.

Yeah PD. Like he said. Take it to the DALPA web board!! :D

Cubdrick 03-17-2015 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Flying Elvis (Post 1844523)
Number of degrees off rwy heading + 20 = % of speed. For caution's sake, add a knot to the result for winds over 30 degrees off heading.

For a 20kt wind: Rule of thumb result vs (actual)

20deg: 40% = 8kt (sine is .34 = 6.8kt)
30deg: 50% = 10kt (perfect = 10kt)
40deg: 60% = 12 +1=13kt (sine is .64 = 12.8kt)
50deg: 70% = 14 +1=15kt (sine is .76 = 15.2kt)
70 degrees: 90% = 18+1=19kt (sine is .93 = 18.6kt)
80 or more degrees: 100% = 20kt (sin is .98 = 19.6kt)

...or just bring back the circular aerodromes. Everyone takes off into the wind. Problem solved.

Flying Elvis 03-17-2015 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1844546)
Thats a good rule of thumb, but I'm talking about those times when you need to know exactly because it may or may not be legal. We need to know head, tail and cross winds and usually when it matters most is when its changing every few seconds. There are plenty of avation specific wind apps out there that let you roll in runway, wind and direction including gusts and can tell you exactly the head, tail and crosswind components of steady state and gusts in about a second or two. Its time to make the leap in technology :cool:

Not a fan of fat-fingering anything on final, and not sure it's quicker to have an app open, unless you had datalink. The degrees off + 20 is within 1 knot all the way up to 22 knots, and if you do the +1knot factor, it's within 1 knot for all winds up to almost 40knots.


I think it's better to just pull the wind chart out - and if you have it ready to go it's only a quick swipe... Unfortunately, a couple weeks ago I discovered the electronic version of the chart in the AM is missing the gridlines.

I just threw together a quick tab data spreadsheet with the exact calcs, color coded to the pertinent limits - will tape it to the back of my EFB. Will post it here later.

PilotFrog 03-17-2015 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1844548)
I'm sure that's a great one. I'd just like to see the company put one on the glitchomatic tablet that we're "legally" allowed to use.

Aviator app for Windows in the Windows Store

iceman49 03-17-2015 01:39 PM

Or just look on your ND:D

scambo1 03-17-2015 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1844447)
That is absolutely the number one thing the EFB needs. Its asinine to expect crews to go heads down with a pen on a piece of paper trying to trace lines and arcs with an imaginary line in a shaky flight deck every time the tower calls out winds (regular and gusts) trying to figure out legality that changes by the knot or degree.

Another thing that would be really nice, but I understand it is coming via the fms is landing distance info. Winter wx sux, it's just one less thing to look up.

MoonShot 03-17-2015 04:05 PM

Any ER reserve guys ever have any luck PD to less than 4 on call days in a row?

The contract says that an international reserves personal drop MAY be denied if it drops them to less than 4 days.

Didn't know if the MAY means WILL, or if there is a chance of the day being dropped.

Timbo 03-17-2015 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Flying Elvis (Post 1844601)
Not a fan of fat-fingering anything on final, and not sure it's quicker to have an app open, unless you had datalink. The degrees off + 20 is within 1 knot all the way up to 22 knots, and if you do the +1knot factor, it's within 1 knot for all winds up to almost 40knots.


I think it's better to just pull the wind chart out - and if you have it ready to go it's only a quick swipe... Unfortunately, a couple weeks ago I discovered the electronic version of the chart in the AM is missing the gridlines.

I just threw together a quick tab data spreadsheet with the exact calcs, color coded to the pertinent limits - will tape it to the back of my EFB. Will post it here later.

Last time I had to fly into a sketchy crosswind situation with a wet runway, (in a tropical storm in FLL) I had the other guy monitor Progress Page 2, where it shows your actual crosswind component, second by second.

On the first attempt we were seeing 28 to 35 direct crosswind component, limit on the 757 was 29, we went around. Next attempt it was 25-29, we landed.

All the fat fingering on some crosswind chart ahead of time is great for planning, but I want to know the actual crosswind from the IRU's/FMS, not what the ATIS or Tower is calling it. Progress Page 2 will tell you all you need to know, other than surface condition.... which also changes minute by minute.

GunshipGuy 03-17-2015 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1844298)
Is that what you replaced the forum with? Bad call.

The slowplay screen name is back. Standing by for spin. If slowplay is around, you know something bad is on its way from Dalpa.

OMG PD, you're such a bully! I'm sure slowplay is really upset and suffering some PTSD as a result. GMAFB, people.

(All opinions welcome, unless there's a hint of anti-ALPA bias, which in that case no diversity desired!) :p

EdGrimley 03-17-2015 04:54 PM

Love the way Delta handles the fallen soldiers. Makes me proud! As an aside, does anybody know why one of the pilots in this video (2:30) appears to work for American (silver stripes instead of gold)?

Watch: Delta Airlines bag handlers pay tribute to a fallen soldier ? and his faithful canine companion - BizPac Review


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