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tsquare 03-05-2010 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by sevenfiveseven (Post 773492)
outstanding!

I was beginning to think it was a wasted post. Thanks.

tsquare 03-05-2010 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 773657)
Isn't that what SC guys are for?

No... Short call guys are "just in case" Whatever that means. Armageddon, Falcons winning the Super Bowl, an NBA game actually being entertaining... I don't know. But whenever it occurs, you will know.

Mem9guy 03-05-2010 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 773697)
DC8;
Sailing is correct, but it would cap your pay. Great for job security and number of bodies per seat, but short lived unless the pay returns as well. People would be fine only working 80 hrs a month if you doubled their hourly rate.


If you are saying that our pay is so low now that it takes 160hrs of it a month to live comfortably, you may need to look at some lifestyle changes.:)

I know what you are trying to say, but it seems a little bit extreme to say that people couldn't live off of 80 hrs of our current rates with a modest raise. The upward progression that an improvement in work rules would create would allow you to make as much as you do now or more without spending as many days away from home. Not much different for reserves like yourself who aren't flying very many days, but for those of us that fly a regular line it would be an increase in Q of L. (At least for those of us who like to be with our families.)

Dc8co 03-05-2010 07:39 AM

a little bit of a blockhour increase...2nd flt to Ams

DL will fly twice daily to AMS. DL238/9 and DL174/5 both with A332s. DL 174/5 will operate between June 11th and August 31st. The flight will arrive at AMS around 14:45 and leave AMS at 17:20

TCMC17RES 03-05-2010 07:49 AM

I am a tool
 

Originally Posted by TCMC17RES (Post 773039)
Waaa HOOOOO 30,000!

Holy $h1X. I can't believe I screwed up the 30,000 post without a cheerleader pic. I have one ready to fix the post, but someone is going to have to tell me how. PM please?

I should not be allowed to post on here. I promise my last post :)

buzzpat 03-05-2010 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 773382)
Yeah yeah yeah... biD packages.. Anyway, they keep putting that stuff in month after month, and I'll wager that of 12,000 guys, there aren't 50 (outside of the ones that write it or work with it in a daily basis) that have any clue what it is all about. I know I'm going all Don Quixote on this, but is that trash really necessary? And if it is, how will it help us bid?

I always page down to the rotations and print from there. I don't think I've looked at that other crap in over a year.

acl65pilot 03-05-2010 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 773813)
I always page down to the rotations and print from there. I don't think I've looked at that other crap in over a year.

I never look at it. Trust me.

acl65pilot 03-05-2010 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Mem9guy (Post 773794)
If you are saying that our pay is so low now that it takes 160hrs of it a month to live comfortably, you may need to look at some lifestyle changes.:)

I know what you are trying to say, but it seems a little bit extreme to say that people couldn't live off of 80 hrs of our current rates with a modest raise. The upward progression that an improvement in work rules would create would allow you to make as much as you do now or more without spending as many days away from home. Not much different for reserves like yourself who aren't flying very many days, but for those of us that fly a regular line it would be an increase in Q of L. (At least for those of us who like to be with our families.)

Do not negotiate against yourself! :D

Point is and was, that for a line holder he can pickup a set amount out of the pot per month. Cut that like Sailing is stating many guys will cry foul. Ergo, the way to fix it is to raise the rates.

You must remember that people live within the means of what they are making (generally) Cut that by 42% require them to save for retirement, throw in the fact that these guys that took the pay cuts are now parents of college kids, and they need to make X.

I love this job, and want to make what I am worth! Where I live within my means or to the salary I make is my business not the companies.

I say to all, get debt free, pay off the house, and then really start saving money. If you pull that belt buckle in a bunch now, it will pay dividends in a few short years. That is how an average person truly starts to create generational wealth!

acl65pilot 03-05-2010 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 773785)
I was beginning to think it was a wasted post. Thanks.

Oh it was not a wasted post. I love it too!

johnso29 03-05-2010 08:21 AM

If a reserve guy picks up a GS trip on his work days(not on XX days or golden days), is it just credit towards guarantee, or is it straight pay above guarantee?? :confused:

I should probably mention it's an out of base GS. Does that make a difference? It is NOT on my days off, so is it a pointless GS??? :o

OK, if I'm reading Section 23 N. corrrectly my GS is pointless because they would award the trip to Long Call out of base reserves and Short Call out of base reserves before they even get to GS requests. Since I'm on reserve in DTW, and it's a MEM trip they could just assign it to me anyway.

Is that correct?? Am I actually understanding this PWA??? :p


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