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Good points. I think you're correctly drawn a distinction between the potential of impact on any given pilot, and the overall effect on staffing.
And you even used the right accents! So, who am I, to argue with such a post? |
Originally Posted by georgetg
(Post 1186378)
bill, that is a terrible line of thinking. The fundamental reason our pwa exists because hope and promises of the past weren't kept and we needed it in writing.
Telling pilots “you’ll be line-holders someday” is a diversion and not a proper response to concerns about a negative impact of reserves’ quality of life. Reserve isn’t a “junior” issue as there are pilots across the majority of the seniority list on reserve. The issue becomes even more pressing when considering the impact lower manning will have on retarding a reserve pilots ability to advance to line-holder. Parts of the proposal will effect line holders as well in having reduced ability to green slip and a higher alv... My own personal experience isn't all that great. As a five year delta pilot i am still on reserve -- certainly not what i would have expected -- and as of the first of the month i am not even in base but commute to reserve. My own experience pales however when i hear the stories from the captains i fly with many with 20+ years at delta barely hanging on to the left seat. Quite a few moved back to fo positions, perhaps that can be seen as a career advancement because now they are "senior line holders" with a 25-40% pay cut... Shouldn't our motto be: "when one delta pilot has a problem we all have a problem?" oh, wait... Cheers george |
DOT!
AMR said to be ready to explore sale Bloomberg: American Airlines parent AMR Corp. (AAMRQ) will explore strategic options that include a possible sale under an agreement with the unsecured creditors committee in its bankruptcy, people familiar with the matter said. The process would begin this summer, before Americans exclusive right to propose a reorganization plan expires in September, said the people, who werent authorized to speak publicly. The creditors panel pressed AMR for such an agreement so that the airlines review of its options would include studying a merger with US Airways Group Inc. (LCC), said one of the people. *This would be a reason to have less than 60 days for MEMRAT. Bandwidth is really tightening. |
Wouldn't they be surprised if their management really considered all options?
Oh, wait a minute, before I gloat... We'd be surprised also, I'm sure. Never mind. |
FWIW folks DAL just changed its PED policy on the flight deck. This has been a long time coming.
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 1186391)
George,
I'm not trying to divide the group or anything. I am pointing out the large demographic of this board. A lot of people on here are reserves at Delta. Some by choice, some just too junior. Unless you are very junior, reserve is a choice. Johnson29 was a 320FO, and probably could be a lineholder maybe in DTW, yet he put himself on 2 years of reserve in NYC on the ER. His choice. Not everyone wants that lifestyle, and one way you can change it is bidding within your means. I could fly larger, but I like not being on reserve. My choice. I don't want the reserves to be paid less or have to work a lot more, but sometimes that comes with being a reserve. During slow times, don't expect to fly a lot and make over guarantee. Over busy times, you may fly a lot. That's how it goes. What I am saying is people currently on reseve may not be in a year if we hire a bunch, and it's good to think about other things also, not just about things that surround you now. I want the whole contract to be better, believe me, but guys screaming about reserve changes is just one part of the whole group, but a large part on this board. No, I don't want manning changes, or furloughs, etc. It is good to tell ALPA what you don't like. I am just pointing out this demographic. |
Not finding it.
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1186405)
FWIW folks DAL just changed its PED policy on the flight deck. This has been a long time coming.
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1186405)
FWIW folks DAL just changed its PED policy on the flight deck. This has been a long time coming.
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Originally Posted by maddogmax
(Post 1186428)
Where did you see that?
Got a pilot briefing update pushed to my e-mail in box. |
Originally Posted by Sink r8
(Post 1186403)
Wouldn't they be surprised if their management really considered all options?
Oh, wait a minute, before I gloat... We'd be surprised also, I'm sure. Never mind. Ah Sink is in a mood today. :D |
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