Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Gets Weekends Off
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I think you're right on all counts.
You know, that thought actually occurred to me on day one. I thought "you know, if scope really was better like ALPA is saying, that kinda makes the mediocre pay raises defensible." But if ALPA really considered themselves giving up negotiating capital for this section 1, they got taken to the cleaners. The changes to section 1 simply allow management to do what they sorely wanted and needed to do to make outsourcing continue to work: replace old inefficient airframes with efficient new ones. It makes DCI cheaper, and once again makes mainline pilots the choice of last resort.
Carl
I'll preface this by saying I'm just a line dude. Not an ALPA guy. Don't go to meetings. Not a Company guy. Don't go to Delta family fun days.
I go to work, fly my trips as safely and efficiently as possible, and come home. I cherish my time at home, but still enjoy my job.
I think I'm about as average as it gets.
I've had a couple of days to digest this TA, and without question, am a solid "no" voter based on everything I've read so far. I'll be the first to admit, I've voted "yes" in the past. I've believed ALPA had my best interest at heart...those guys are in the loop and have knowledge well beyond anything I could comprehend.
This time, it isn't happening. In order: #1 - what's the rush to get this done? I still haven't been told to my satisfaction why it was so crucial (for us) to get this thing signed off so soon. #2 - Scope. I said not one more seat should be given away. I'm sticking to that, and without question, seats are being given away here. Spin it any way you like - we're getting the crap side of the stick. #3 - pay isn't even close. Enough said. We're in the position to make huge money, and I can't believe what's being proposed is anything remotely close to the survey results.
When you buy a car, house, see an auction, watch Pawn Stars, bid on Ebay, etc, do you settle for the first offer? No, you counter with a better offer in your favor. Why would I ever consider voting for this, when my career for the next 3 to 4 years is at stake?
I go to work, fly my trips as safely and efficiently as possible, and come home. I cherish my time at home, but still enjoy my job.
I think I'm about as average as it gets.
I've had a couple of days to digest this TA, and without question, am a solid "no" voter based on everything I've read so far. I'll be the first to admit, I've voted "yes" in the past. I've believed ALPA had my best interest at heart...those guys are in the loop and have knowledge well beyond anything I could comprehend.
This time, it isn't happening. In order: #1 - what's the rush to get this done? I still haven't been told to my satisfaction why it was so crucial (for us) to get this thing signed off so soon. #2 - Scope. I said not one more seat should be given away. I'm sticking to that, and without question, seats are being given away here. Spin it any way you like - we're getting the crap side of the stick. #3 - pay isn't even close. Enough said. We're in the position to make huge money, and I can't believe what's being proposed is anything remotely close to the survey results.
When you buy a car, house, see an auction, watch Pawn Stars, bid on Ebay, etc, do you settle for the first offer? No, you counter with a better offer in your favor. Why would I ever consider voting for this, when my career for the next 3 to 4 years is at stake?
It's undoubtedly Scope up, but that's the problem.
And guys always said the Reserve sytem was broken and needed fixing. But between the recent improvements and the new guarantee, Reserve isn't a second-class job anymore, and Reserve might actually become a senior winter activity, and a rewarding summer job. And guys re shiIIing themselves, of course, because we actually spent negotiating capital on, what, Reserve? Yes, we spent negotiating capital on Reserve. I sheet you not!
And guys always said the Reserve sytem was broken and needed fixing. But between the recent improvements and the new guarantee, Reserve isn't a second-class job anymore, and Reserve might actually become a senior winter activity, and a rewarding summer job. And guys re shiIIing themselves, of course, because we actually spent negotiating capital on, what, Reserve? Yes, we spent negotiating capital on Reserve. I sheet you not!
One thing we know for sure, 255 is not a hard cap.
So why should I believe 325 will be a hard cap?
So why should I believe 325 will be a hard cap?
Btw I conducted a survey with the Delta pilots as well. They said it was in the best interest of all parties for you to give me all your money, your house and your car. There's no way you can dispute this truth, it was in my survey. And no you can't see it. It's for my eyes only. Just take me at my word, I would never mislead you or rip you off
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 478
Says you. Where is the dam survey already?
Btw I conducted a survey with the Delta pilots as well. They said it was in the best interest of all parties for you to give me all your money, your house and your car. There's no way you can dispute this truth, it was in my survey. And no you can't see it. It's for my eyes only. Just take me at my word, I would never mislead you or rip you off
Btw I conducted a survey with the Delta pilots as well. They said it was in the best interest of all parties for you to give me all your money, your house and your car. There's no way you can dispute this truth, it was in my survey. And no you can't see it. It's for my eyes only. Just take me at my word, I would never mislead you or rip you off
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