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Old 11-05-2013 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
That's what I meant. Anyhoo, did DALPA expend negotiating capital on this? I understand that Pinnacle/Endeavor went through bankruptcy and this preferential hiring is a bone for them. Fine. But why waive a basic requirement?

Is this SSP over and above the preferential hiring of all DCI pilots?
  1. No
  2. the Pinnacle pilots bought for their interview opportunity with concessions.
  3. It dilutes the opportunities available to other DCI pilots
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Old 11-05-2013 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
That's what I meant. Anyhoo, did DALPA expend negotiating capital on this? I understand that Pinnacle/Endeavor went through bankruptcy and this preferential hiring is a bone for them. Fine. But why waive a basic requirement?

Is this SSP over and above the preferential hiring of all DCI pilots?
It was negotiated via the 9E MEC chairman, DL, and Lee Moak. DALPA was not invited to the meetings (and my understanding is not privy to them even occurring).

The specific wording of the bridge agreement requires anyone invited to the SSP to meet all of the hiring requirements, one of which is the degree. One can only wonder the lawsuits that can come from not following the letter of the bridge agreement.

The SSP folks count toward the preferential hiring of DCI pilots.
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Old 11-05-2013 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by surfnski
Hotel for interviews? The Hilton is walking distance correct?

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Yes, 90 second walk.
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Old 11-05-2013 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by surfnski
Hotel for interviews? The Hilton is walking distance correct?

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Yep. Spring for it. Right across the street. Takes about 5 minutes to walk to the interview.
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Old 11-05-2013 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamer
Yes, 90 second walk.
Too far. I was looking for something around 60 seconds.
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Old 11-05-2013 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Yep. Spring for it. Right across the street. Takes about 5 minutes to walk to the interview.
I just imagine buzz walking down the street to the interview with his briefcase handcuffed to him.
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Old 11-05-2013 | 04:01 PM
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Thanks gents.
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Old 11-05-2013 | 04:05 PM
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Thanks for the answers, guys. It all comes down to the fact that Delta can ultimately hire who they want. I'm glad we didn't expend any effort to lower minimums. On the other hand, this agreement could be taken to an extreme: Regional airline Chatthoochiepoop pilots could agree to work for minimum wage (and thus drive down pilot compensation across the board) -- in exchange for preferential interviews.

Sets a bad precedent.
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Old 11-05-2013 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Can you PM me specific names? They are breaking the letter of the bridge agreement by doing so.
check it....
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Old 11-05-2013 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

The specific wording of the bridge agreement requires anyone invited to the SSP to meet all of the hiring requirements, one of which is the degree. One can only wonder the lawsuits that can come from not following the letter of the bridge agreement.
Well no.

A grievance could be filed. ALPA would then take up the grievance with the management of Delta Air Lines.

Guys like me will then begin asking questions about how ALPA is processing grievances with the management of Delta for pilots of another airline. ALPA will again explain that a Pinnacle pilot is not a part of the craft or class of worker performing Delta flying, except, they are, or aren't based on an arbitrary line that ALPA itself created and a process to cross that imaginary line via a contractual mechanism that ALPA also created.

Delta management has no duty other than that stipulated in the contracts. ALPA has a fiduciary duty to it's members. Guess who gets sued first?
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