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11-20-2013 | 06:11 AM
#101
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
The Jan 13 was a class date given for the Mesaba Flows. Also given was a second class date of Feb 3 for flows. That is the only crumbs we've been getting. I think the Compass bypass for a couple months will open things up for off the street people to get into class.
11-22-2013 | 03:17 PM
#103
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For further clarification, we've been told 46 of those offered recall have resigned. Additionally, 13 offered recall have not responded. I don't know how much time they have.
11-23-2013 | 09:50 AM
#105
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From: 7ERA
Both Compass and XJ pilots (non-management) can be held back for 3 months by their carrier for operational constraints. The seniority and date of employment for a pilot who is held back begins on the date he/she would have started class had they not been held back.
11-23-2013 | 09:01 PM
#106
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From: Works too much
Here's what a bunch of us swimmers were able to come up with as a projection for Jan - Mar class numbers as of today.
Assumptions:
50 class slots per month
Compass holds back at least Jan and Feb
Mesaba does not hold back
Endeavor SSB hires entitled to 1/3 the off the street slots per month (max 12/mo)
Furlough recalls completed in December - none in Jan
Here goes:
9 Mesaba +12 Endeavor = 21 slots/month
That leaves 29 per month for true off the street
58 in Jan and Feb combined
87 by March if Compass holds back the full 90 days
Once Compass flows start in, 7 Endeavor and 14 true off the street/mo
As of mid Nov approximately 100 true off the streets are in the pool
If anyone has different numbers or assumptions, please cite a credible reference.
Assumptions:
50 class slots per month
Compass holds back at least Jan and Feb
Mesaba does not hold back
Endeavor SSB hires entitled to 1/3 the off the street slots per month (max 12/mo)
Furlough recalls completed in December - none in Jan
Here goes:
9 Mesaba +12 Endeavor = 21 slots/month
That leaves 29 per month for true off the street
58 in Jan and Feb combined
87 by March if Compass holds back the full 90 days
Once Compass flows start in, 7 Endeavor and 14 true off the street/mo
As of mid Nov approximately 100 true off the streets are in the pool
If anyone has different numbers or assumptions, please cite a credible reference.
11-24-2013 | 05:25 AM
#107
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From: NYC 7ER LCA
Here's what a bunch of us swimmers were able to come up with as a projection for Jan - Mar class numbers as of today.
Assumptions:
50 class slots per month
Compass holds back at least Jan and Feb
Mesaba does not hold back
Endeavor SSB hires entitled to 1/3 the off the street slots per month (max 12/mo)
Furlough recalls completed in December - none in Jan
Here goes:
9 Mesaba +12 Endeavor = 21 slots/month
That leaves 29 per month for true off the street
58 in Jan and Feb combined
87 by March if Compass holds back the full 90 days
Once Compass flows start in, 7 Endeavor and 14 true off the street/mo
As of mid Nov approximately 100 true off the streets are in the pool
If anyone has different numbers or assumptions, please cite a credible reference.
Assumptions:
50 class slots per month
Compass holds back at least Jan and Feb
Mesaba does not hold back
Endeavor SSB hires entitled to 1/3 the off the street slots per month (max 12/mo)
Furlough recalls completed in December - none in Jan
Here goes:
9 Mesaba +12 Endeavor = 21 slots/month
That leaves 29 per month for true off the street
58 in Jan and Feb combined
87 by March if Compass holds back the full 90 days
Once Compass flows start in, 7 Endeavor and 14 true off the street/mo
As of mid Nov approximately 100 true off the streets are in the pool
If anyone has different numbers or assumptions, please cite a credible reference.
Last flows in 2010 were held back 90 days with 3 months heads up on hiring.
This time Delta gave them 6 month notice
11-24-2013 | 07:28 AM
#108
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From: 7ERA
Here's what a bunch of us swimmers were able to come up with as a projection for Jan - Mar class numbers as of today.
Assumptions:
50 class slots per month
Compass holds back at least Jan and Feb
Mesaba does not hold back
Endeavor SSB hires entitled to 1/3 the off the street slots per month (max 12/mo)
Furlough recalls completed in December - none in Jan
Here goes:
9 Mesaba +12 Endeavor = 21 slots/month
That leaves 29 per month for true off the street
58 in Jan and Feb combined
87 by March if Compass holds back the full 90 days
Once Compass flows start in, 7 Endeavor and 14 true off the street/mo
As of mid Nov approximately 100 true off the streets are in the pool
If anyone has different numbers or assumptions, please cite a credible reference.
Assumptions:
50 class slots per month
Compass holds back at least Jan and Feb
Mesaba does not hold back
Endeavor SSB hires entitled to 1/3 the off the street slots per month (max 12/mo)
Furlough recalls completed in December - none in Jan
Here goes:
9 Mesaba +12 Endeavor = 21 slots/month
That leaves 29 per month for true off the street
58 in Jan and Feb combined
87 by March if Compass holds back the full 90 days
Once Compass flows start in, 7 Endeavor and 14 true off the street/mo
As of mid Nov approximately 100 true off the streets are in the pool
If anyone has different numbers or assumptions, please cite a credible reference.
50 slots remaining
20 Compass flow pilots (even if they are held back) = 30 remaining slots
9 XJ flow pilots (even if they are held back) = 21 remaining slots
7 Endeavor SSP pilots (1/3 of 21) = 14 remaining slots
11-24-2013 | 08:13 AM
#110
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From: 737 FO
Example: 20 Compass pilots offered Delta class date of Jan 13th. All 20 held back 90 days until mid-April class date. All 20 will have a seniority date of hire at Delta of Jan 13th even though they are not physically sitting in new hire class until April.
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