Details on Delta TA
06-10-2015, 08:31 AM
#7141
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Beyond that we can all guess what might happen. Hopefully I gave enough additional information on the question of number of lines it would reduce in a category affected?
Let me know if I can ask anything else.
06-10-2015, 08:33 AM
#7142
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Denny
06-10-2015, 08:34 AM
#7143
Straight QOL, homie
Joined APC: Feb 2012
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Copy that.
You are being paid our dues money to sell us a deal we don't want, a rushed **** sandwich that does not reflect our wishes.
You are being paid our dues money to post on APC.
I never thought I'd say this. But I'm renewing my DPA card today.
You are being paid our dues money to sell us a deal we don't want, a rushed **** sandwich that does not reflect our wishes.
You are being paid our dues money to post on APC.
I never thought I'd say this. But I'm renewing my DPA card today.
06-10-2015, 08:36 AM
#7144
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Dude, I can only give you the numbers that are calculated vis a vis pilots bidding for LCA trips and what 75% of those effected will be.
Beyond that we can all guess what might happen. Hopefully I gave enough additional information on the question of number of lines it would reduce in a category affected?
Let me know if I can ask anything else.
Beyond that we can all guess what might happen. Hopefully I gave enough additional information on the question of number of lines it would reduce in a category affected?
Let me know if I can ask anything else.
06-10-2015, 08:36 AM
#7145
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I think I am presenting the facts as they are and nothing more. If I am not, I'll try harder to answer questions as best I can.
06-10-2015, 08:42 AM
#7146
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The numbers are that 250 first officers bid each month with LCA's.
Right now.
I am not privy to what the number of lines impacted would be.
There is an expected loss of about 2% of lines in effected categories.
That is all I got.
06-10-2015, 08:44 AM
#7147
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And as the retirements pick up, that number will at minimum double.
06-10-2015, 08:44 AM
#7148
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Dude, I can only give you the numbers that are calculated vis a vis pilots bidding for LCA trips and what 75% of those effected will be.
Beyond that we can all guess what might happen. Hopefully I gave enough additional information on the question of number of lines it would reduce in a category affected?
Let me know if I can ask anything else.
Beyond that we can all guess what might happen. Hopefully I gave enough additional information on the question of number of lines it would reduce in a category affected?
Let me know if I can ask anything else.
All that being said, thank you for being there and passing along information!
Denny
06-10-2015, 08:44 AM
#7149
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Position: Captain, SS Orca
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As retirements increase, training and OEs will be rampant in all categories. ALL of them. IT may have a larger affect right now on new hire categories, and will probably always affect those categories to a greater degree. Going forward, especially past 2018 it will spread to all categories, and it will stay that way for some time.
I'm sure that's why it was on the companies hit list.
I can tell you that our current system is one of the best if not the best I've heard of. I can also tell you that if this stays in the TA as it is, it becomes one of the worst.
Far worse than AA's. The slide that the MEC put up saying that 100% of their LCA trips are pulled is patently FALSE.
I'm sure that's why it was on the companies hit list.
I can tell you that our current system is one of the best if not the best I've heard of. I can also tell you that if this stays in the TA as it is, it becomes one of the worst.
Far worse than AA's. The slide that the MEC put up saying that 100% of their LCA trips are pulled is patently FALSE.
06-10-2015, 08:44 AM
#7150
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I feel the same way as PD. This deal is absolute garbage. It is sh!t. It feels cost neutral to concessionary. I was expecting historic. This is not historic. I was expecting a larger initial raise than contract 2012. Moving profit sharing is not a raise. This is not it. This deal is **** and ALPA is ****. We needed to get rid of ALPA 11 years ago. Now we need to vote this deal down, then get rid of ALPA. We never learn.
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