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06-12-2015 | 02:10 PM
#8141
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Are you saying we can keep the C2012 work rules, JV language, sick leave, LOE drops AND get Profit Sharing plus hourly rate increases tied to American and United indefinitely? Why on earth would I vote for a concession in ANY area of the contract if I can just keep what I have. Wouldn't I be better off keeping C2012 + Profit Sharing indefinitely with hourly rates tied to American and United forever? I can't come up with ANY reason to vote for this.
(That was snarky. But, they deserve it.)
06-12-2015 | 02:11 PM
#8142
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From: Light Chop
06-12-2015 | 02:11 PM
#8143
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From: Lowest Pay I Could Find
What are the positions of the three guys who's names appear at the bottom of the latest compensation negotiators notepad? Please don't tell me they are unelected ALPA pilots.
They are selling this like it's their baby.
They are selling this like it's their baby.
06-12-2015 | 02:17 PM
#8144
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Denny
06-12-2015 | 02:27 PM
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So do FedEx. UPS. SWAPA. UAL. APA.
Why haven't they gotten it? Why are we the first group to exceed our C2K pay 12 years later?
Denny, I don't have those numbers handy. IIRC '96 was a 2% cut and added profit sharing. In 1998 we converted 6% profit sharing to pay. We then got the 737-800 payrate, and followed that with the B777 and B767-400 "Delta dot." C2K wound up being UAL plus 1%. They lost that when they went into bankruptcy in 2002. We kept the rates until LOA-46 in November, 2004.
06-12-2015 | 02:29 PM
#8147
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Under the Railway Labor Act, our contracts do not 'expire', they become 'amendable'.
So once we pass by the Amendable Date (Jan. 1, 2016) we continue to operate under today's contract, WITH PROFIT SHARING UNTOUCHED, with 100% of trips dropped for IOE for F/O's, with no BS third party Sick Leave Verification, or any of the many other concessions in this T/A.
So once we pass by the Amendable Date (Jan. 1, 2016) we continue to operate under today's contract, WITH PROFIT SHARING UNTOUCHED, with 100% of trips dropped for IOE for F/O's, with no BS third party Sick Leave Verification, or any of the many other concessions in this T/A.
06-12-2015 | 02:36 PM
#8148
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It's this kind of shiat why alpa needs to go. I never thought I would say this, ever, but it's time. Tomorrow morning I will send in a card to ask for a vote for different representation. There comes a point in time where you current provider has just screwed the pooch too many times.
Denny
06-12-2015 | 02:36 PM
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Carl
06-12-2015 | 02:38 PM
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Long time lurker. Ummm, isn't the below pretty much the same situation as the Norwegian Air issue a few months back that ALPA fought to stop. Using foreign underpaid pilots to fly for them in their brand? So, I'm a little confused by their actions, waste a bunch of PAC money to stop them from doing it, just to turn around and do the same. Nail in the coffin for careers of young Delta new hires.
1. E. 9.
Because it bares repeating. And will go unnoticed.
9. Except as approved by the Delta MEC Chairman, or as otherwise provided by Section 1 E., a carrier engaged in international partner flying will maintain a separate operating and corporate identity from the Company including, but not limited to, name, trade name, logo, livery, trademarks or service marks. The Delta MEC Chairman may, at his option, approve the use by a carrier engaged in international partner flying of a trade name, brand, logo, trademarks, service marks, aircraft livery or aircraft paint scheme currently or in the future utilized by the Company or any Company affiliate.
WHY was this added?
You know the answer, it's intuitive.
Because it bares repeating. And will go unnoticed.
9. Except as approved by the Delta MEC Chairman, or as otherwise provided by Section 1 E., a carrier engaged in international partner flying will maintain a separate operating and corporate identity from the Company including, but not limited to, name, trade name, logo, livery, trademarks or service marks. The Delta MEC Chairman may, at his option, approve the use by a carrier engaged in international partner flying of a trade name, brand, logo, trademarks, service marks, aircraft livery or aircraft paint scheme currently or in the future utilized by the Company or any Company affiliate.
WHY was this added?
You know the answer, it's intuitive.
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