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Old 05-07-2018, 03:19 PM   #211  
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They may have a decent military pension, as the requirements for the EtD were ridiculous. The DGI is not a gimmick, the EtD was. The question is what legal options Delta has, they can't interview in seniority order(violates the EtD), but they could interview in the order in which you submitted your application.
Well, EtD was contractual, DGI is not, it's just a promise (which is why I'm not holding my breath). But since that's the case, couldn't they just say since you currently work at EDV (or anywhere for that matter) you're free to apply to DL whenever you want and if you have been a CA for two years and were hired between date X and date X you'll be automatically selected for an interview? I'm sure DL's legal team would be good enough to be able to deal with one guy who basically has decided to waive his right as it appears.
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Old 05-07-2018, 04:50 PM   #212  
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Well, EtD was contractual, DGI is not, it's just a promise (which is why I'm not holding my breath). But since that's the case, couldn't they just say since you currently work at EDV (or anywhere for that matter) you're free to apply to DL whenever you want and if you have been a CA for two years and were hired between date X and date X you'll be automatically selected for an interview? I'm sure DL's legal team would be good enough to be able to deal with one guy who basically has decided to waive his right as it appears.
SSP is contractual. EtD and DGI are not.
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Old 05-07-2018, 07:12 PM   #213  
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If they really wanted to get a move on it, they could tell him to sh1t or get off the pot. One guy's personal decision or lack of motivation not to upgrade shouldn't be their excuse, unless of course the DGI was a gimmick. Now why one would want to spend anymore time then they have to on regional FO pay when they have a mainline job waiting for them.... beyond me.
Itís ironic that the entity holding everyone back isnít mgt, Alpa, or
Delta but rather one of us. If Endeavor shorted you all a nickel you would be pi$$ed. But
Some pilot screws you out of $ and career advancement you
Donít say nothing. Pathetic
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Old 05-07-2018, 09:34 PM   #214  
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SSP is contractual. EtD and DGI are not.
There are a several of us in which the DGI is contractual and we get no help from
Union or company.
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Old 05-08-2018, 02:43 AM   #215  
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There are a several of us in which the DGI is contractual and we get no help from
Union or company.
Don't blame the union. They've already done everything they can with that LOA.

You came to this company under a DGI with no contractual or company guarantee. I might add when you came here it was still called the GIP, remember that? The union can't hold them to a promise that isnt defined. If the DGI is amended to a tour of the Delta museum in ATL and a swift kick in the posterior theyve checkmarked that item off the contract.
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Don't blame the union. They've already done everything they can with that LOA.

You came to this company under a DGI with no contractual or company guarantee. I might add when you came here it was still called the GIP, remember that? The union can't hold them to a promise that isnt defined. If the DGI is amended to a tour of the Delta museum in ATL and a swift kick in the posterior theyve checkmarked that item off the contract.
If I enjoy that can I come back for the 6 month AND 12 month ones too??
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Old 05-08-2018, 04:49 AM   #217  
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If I enjoy that can I come back for the 6 month AND 12 month ones too??
I know right?

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The sooner our pilot group understands that they made a choice coming here, there's a reality to that choice, the happier the pilot group will be. If no one shows up for new hire class it might change, or if enough people leave all at once it might change.

The pretending the DGI is anything meaningful, is embarasing and I'm sick of it.

Everyone stop blaming the union, it makes you sound stupid and petty. It's not the unions fault they thought the GIP/DGI is/was a joke, and refused to waste a minute of negotating effort while our bankruptcy wages were still propped up by a bonus program. Of course, after months and sometimes YEARS you all figured out what the union and everyone here knew from the beginning, and you're mad at the union for it? Shaddyap!
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I know right?

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The sooner our pilot group understands that they made a choice coming here, there's a reality to that choice, the happier the pilot group will be. If no one shows up for new hire class it might change, or if enough people leave all at once it might change.

The pretending the DGI is anything meaningful, is embarasing and I'm sick of it.

Everyone stop blaming the union, it makes you sound stupid and petty. It's not the unions fault they thought the GIP/DGI is/was a joke, and refused to waste a minute of negotating effort while our bankruptcy wages were still propped up by a bonus program. Of course, after months and sometimes YEARS you all figured out what the union and everyone here knew from the beginning, and you're mad at the union for it? Shaddyap!
Thereís nothing wrong with the DGI. Itís all it says it is. An interview after 2 years as a captain right?
No one is even eligible to participate yet. If you think 9e and Delta wonít honor it youíre crazy.
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Old 05-08-2018, 05:42 AM   #219  
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Thereís nothing wrong with the DGI. Itís all it says it is. An interview after 2 years as a captain right?
No one is even eligible to participate yet. If you think 9e and Delta wonít honor it youíre crazy.
Oh I'm sure they'll honor the interview, that doesn't guarantee they will hire very many people from the program.
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Old 05-08-2018, 07:06 AM   #220  
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There’s nothing wrong with the DGI. It’s all it says it is. An interview after 2 years as a captain right?
No one is even eligible to participate yet. If you think 9e and Delta won’t honor it you’re crazy.
I'm eligible as are 3 others. So I'm crazy?
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