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Old 02-11-2017, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gojo View Post
Might as well include the Saabs too then
Why stop there? Jetstreams, Dash 8s and Metros too...
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Old 02-11-2017, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver View Post
Why stop there? Jetstreams, Dash 8s and Metros too...
Keep it going, Ground Catchers, 402s, cubs
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Old 02-11-2017, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight View Post
30 to 40? Only moved up 5 spots from Jan to Feb, and 25 spots from Feb to Mar.
Where are you in the seniority? I gained 127 numbers since my Oct class and using my most recent seniority from the March bid pack. People are leaving 30 or so a month on average but I guess it depends where they were on the seniority list.
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Old 02-11-2017, 04:41 PM
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Where are you in the seniority? I gained 127 numbers since my Oct class and using my most recent seniority from the March bid pack. People are leaving 30 or so a month on average but I guess it depends where they were on the seniority list.
I think everyone is consistently moving up 15-30 positions in seniority every month because of attrition off the top. The problem lies in the fact that flying keeps moving around so much one month you could be senior enough to hold a line and the next you are back on reserve. I used to sit comfortably above the line/reserve threshold and now with decreased flying in DTW and MSP each month I have edged closer and closer to being back on reserve. I left the 200 because I lost my line. If it keeps up like this I will be back on reserve on the 900. I'd venture to say that anyone hired before 1 JAN 16 hit the last of the "seniority jackpot" everyone hired in 2016 and after has bounced all over the place in terms of line vs reserve because of NYC buildup and shrinking of DTW and MSP.

I feel for the guys who spent +10 years on reserve or the MSP CA's that sit perpetual reserve but QoL is 1000% improved when you have a solid schedule. At the end of the day I love working here and the positives definitely outweigh the negatives for a new hire.
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Old 02-11-2017, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Slaveaway View Post
This is frustrating. There are a number of pilots relying on 17-01 to switch bases, upgrade etc for QOL purposes.
Yep, and unfortunately after the vacancy everyone will wait another two months or more for the final award. Late Spring/Summer move dates
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Old 02-11-2017, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumyum View Post
Yep, and unfortunately after the vacancy everyone will wait another two months or more for the final award. Late Spring/Summer move dates
They're setting themselves up for a massive vacancy too. A lot of upgrades likely. Wouldn't surprise me if we saw 17-01 before an ATL base, and if that base materializes (who knows at this point) maybe it'll be on 17-02
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Old 02-11-2017, 05:21 PM
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They're setting themselves up for a massive vacancy too. A lot of upgrades likely. Wouldn't surprise me if we saw 17-01 before an ATL base, and if that base materializes (who knows at this point) maybe it'll be on 17-02
I completely understand that, however we don't even know the details. Is ATL going to be a 200 only base? Because if that's the case, movement on the 900 will be irrelevant
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Old 02-11-2017, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AnotherWriter View Post
They're setting themselves up for a massive vacancy too. A lot of upgrades likely. Wouldn't surprise me if we saw 17-01 before an ATL base, and if that base materializes (who knows at this point) maybe it'll be on 17-02
If 17-01 goes without ATL, why has it been this delayed in the first place?
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Old 02-11-2017, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Five93H View Post
If 17-01 goes without ATL, why has it been this delayed in the first place?
That was my thought, at least on the 200 FO side DTW and MSP are thin and NY is fat, why can't they just put out a 17-01 with DTW and MSP vacancies? Then put out 17-02 with ATL whenever they're ready.
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Old 02-11-2017, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyKilo View Post
I think everyone is consistently moving up 15-30 positions in seniority every month because of attrition off the top. The problem lies in the fact that flying keeps moving around so much one month you could be senior enough to hold a line and the next you are back on reserve. I used to sit comfortably above the line/reserve threshold and now with decreased flying in DTW and MSP each month I have edged closer and closer to being back on reserve. I left the 200 because I lost my line. If it keeps up like this I will be back on reserve on the 900. I'd venture to say that anyone hired before 1 JAN 16 hit the last of the "seniority jackpot" everyone hired in 2016 and after has bounced all over the place in terms of line vs reserve because of NYC buildup and shrinking of DTW and MSP.

I feel for the guys who spent +10 years on reserve or the MSP CA's that sit perpetual reserve but QoL is 1000% improved when you have a solid schedule. At the end of the day I love working here and the positives definitely outweigh the negatives for a new hire.
This! From today's bid pack I can see I moved up about 25 numbers it *total* for the month, but in my base, a/c, and seat I've pretty much made zero headway. The movement is there, it's just some months you don't feel it and others you really do.
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