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12-20-2017, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Space Ranger
Yeah let’s further advocate for the degradation of our hand flying skills. Smart!
Why don't you give your passengers that brief. I Think they would deplane.
Imagine if your Dr told you they weren't going to use the newer, safer, higher tech procedures, but wanted to practice the old way?
12-20-2017, 01:32 PM
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If this is happening, then you need to put on your CA hat and teach them how to do it correctly. You are their primary trainer, after all.
Originally Posted by whoareyou311
Good...I don't want any new hires taking off raw data regardless. Way too many people over rotate even with the FD for some guidance.
12-20-2017, 01:36 PM
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Practicing in the sim is great. Hardly ever happens.
Only had an A/P deferred once. It was the CA’s leg. After about 15 minutes of witching him struggle, I offered to fly for a while, give him a break; figured we could take turns “resting”. After a bit, he complimented me on my aircraft control, and asked me to take it all the way in. I said no problemo. It was very clear he had been an A/P only guy for a while.
It is a diminishing skill. The time to practice is NOT when it is required.
Only had an A/P deferred once. It was the CA’s leg. After about 15 minutes of witching him struggle, I offered to fly for a while, give him a break; figured we could take turns “resting”. After a bit, he complimented me on my aircraft control, and asked me to take it all the way in. I said no problemo. It was very clear he had been an A/P only guy for a while.
It is a diminishing skill. The time to practice is NOT when it is required.
Originally Posted by msprj2
Practice in the sim. They are always looking for nfp's
Why don't you give your passengers that brief. I Think they would deplane.
Imagine if your Dr told you they weren't going to use the newer, safer, higher tech procedures, but wanted to practice the old way?
Why don't you give your passengers that brief. I Think they would deplane.
Imagine if your Dr told you they weren't going to use the newer, safer, higher tech procedures, but wanted to practice the old way?
12-20-2017, 01:43 PM
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God like 15 pages later people are still arguing about RNAV and flight directors. You’d think this was some Mom and pop shop up in Alaska and and not a part 121 carrier with a training Manual and set profiles for flight. The easiest solution to the argument is, if you blew an engine on take off and decided to hand fly it raw data; What do you think the company would say?
12-20-2017, 02:09 PM
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I’m pretty sure NO ONE would hand fly a plane on one engine unless the A/P was deferred. Your scenario doesn’t make sense in discussing what is written in the manuals.
Originally Posted by prex8390
God like 15 pages later people are still arguing about RNAV and flight directors. You’d think this was some Mom and pop shop up in Alaska and and not a part 121 carrier with a training Manual and set profiles for flight. The easiest solution to the argument is, if you blew an engine on take off and decided to hand fly it raw data; What do you think the company would say?
12-20-2017, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
Practice in the sim. They are always looking for nfp's
Why don't you give your passengers that brief. I Think they would deplane.
Imagine if your Dr told you they weren't going to use the newer, safer, higher tech procedures, but wanted to practice the old way?
Why don't you give your passengers that brief. I Think they would deplane.
Imagine if your Dr told you they weren't going to use the newer, safer, higher tech procedures, but wanted to practice the old way?
Fly the plane how you want to fly it, but captain happy encouraging people to not practice handflying skills is total crap.
12-20-2017, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Space Ranger
My doctor isn’t going to show up to the plane not knowing well beforehand that his “newer/safer” equipment is inop for that surgery. So you’re comparing apples to oranges.
Fly the plane how you want to fly it, but captain happy encouraging people to not practice handflying skills is total crap.
Fly the plane how you want to fly it, but captain happy encouraging people to not practice handflying skills is total crap.
I've never heard of that unless your from Edv south.
12-20-2017, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Space Ranger
Yeah let’s further advocate for the degradation of our hand flying skills. Smart!
Originally Posted by HighFlight
If this is happening, then you need to put on your CA hat and teach them how to do it correctly. You are their primary trainer, after all.
12-20-2017, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlieFoxtr0t
My buddy is in new hire and wanted JFK 900 and was awarded DTW 200. Does that seem odd to anybody? He bid in the correct order from what he tells me.
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We’re not talking about much unless someone below him got awarded what HE wanted.
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