Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
03-18-2018 | 02:25 PM
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I'd prefer to ramp-up the 700/900 line and send the 200 to SkyWest. The cost and effort to start and maintain a 175 program at 9E might draw on company resources that I'd rather be negotiated into pay/benefits. And I imagine the 175 will go super senior even if it remained in the western-half of the US. More senior if we fly them in the east.
I've been wondering how 9E would acquire the 175?
1) A quick move from Compass at the end of their CPA wouldn't be practical. Airplanes would sit until we have crews trained.
2) Straight merge with Compass. Seniority issues especially in the 9E pilot group; although I wouldn't oppose the possibility.
3) Staple? Good way to immediately anger 600+ future fellow pilots. I oppose stapling an entire pilot group below us. Bad and unfair.
4) Bring the 175s in slowly like the EV to 9E process. Doable, but Compass gets shafted. Fellow pilots struggling as their airline is bled off...like SkyWest is doing to EV. Not good IMHO.
5) Delta buys Compass as a completely separate Wholly Owned similar to AA's regional set up with Envoy/PSA/Piedmont. Don't think that's going to happen after hearing what our CEO and COO have said about 3 DCI carriers.
If we do get the 175, I think it's going to be via #2 or #4. Maybe there's another possibility?
Of course, SkyWest and Republic fly the 175 too, but I don't think we'll see any 175s from them. Delta already has their hands around Republic's throat and SkyWest routinely bends their pilot groups over the desk while somehow convincing them it's ok because they use lube. What Mainline company would argue with that business plan?
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I've been wondering how 9E would acquire the 175?
1) A quick move from Compass at the end of their CPA wouldn't be practical. Airplanes would sit until we have crews trained.
2) Straight merge with Compass. Seniority issues especially in the 9E pilot group; although I wouldn't oppose the possibility.
3) Staple? Good way to immediately anger 600+ future fellow pilots. I oppose stapling an entire pilot group below us. Bad and unfair.
4) Bring the 175s in slowly like the EV to 9E process. Doable, but Compass gets shafted. Fellow pilots struggling as their airline is bled off...like SkyWest is doing to EV. Not good IMHO.
5) Delta buys Compass as a completely separate Wholly Owned similar to AA's regional set up with Envoy/PSA/Piedmont. Don't think that's going to happen after hearing what our CEO and COO have said about 3 DCI carriers.
If we do get the 175, I think it's going to be via #2 or #4. Maybe there's another possibility?
Of course, SkyWest and Republic fly the 175 too, but I don't think we'll see any 175s from them. Delta already has their hands around Republic's throat and SkyWest routinely bends their pilot groups over the desk while somehow convincing them it's ok because they use lube. What Mainline company would argue with that business plan?
Thoughts?
03-18-2018 | 02:27 PM
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SkyPest is going to have their own staffing crisis to simply staff the 30 DL 175SC's and 10 AS 175's this year, let alone take on more flying. Outside of that, Skywest wouldn't want a load of partner owned 200's, as they own a majority of the 200's they current operate. Couple that with the fact that I'd imagine they're going to be looking to wind down that 20 AA CR7 fleet at ASA quickly, they'll need to bring that onboard OO.
Easiest way to bring a 175 program on at 9E? Don't transfer all 22 G7 700's. Give us a total fleet of 10-15 CR7's, let GoJet operate the remainder for a short term, and go buy 10 175SC's to start the fleet with at 9E. Then once that's up, you can transfer the CPZ 175's over.
Easiest way to bring a 175 program on at 9E? Don't transfer all 22 G7 700's. Give us a total fleet of 10-15 CR7's, let GoJet operate the remainder for a short term, and go buy 10 175SC's to start the fleet with at 9E. Then once that's up, you can transfer the CPZ 175's over.
03-18-2018 | 02:32 PM
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SkyPest is going to have their own staffing crisis to simply staff the 30 DL 175SC's and 10 AS 175's this year, let alone take on more flying. Outside of that, Skywest wouldn't want a load of partner owned 200's, as they own a majority of the 200's they current operate. Couple that with the fact that I'd imagine they're going to be looking to wind down that 20 AA CR7 fleet at ASA quickly, they'll need to bring that onboard OO.
Easiest way to bring a 175 program on at 9E? Don't transfer all 22 G7 700's. Give us a total fleet of 10-15 CR7's, let GoJet operate the remainder for a short term, and go buy 10 175SC's to start the fleet with at 9E. Then once that's up, you can transfer the CPZ 175's over.
Easiest way to bring a 175 program on at 9E? Don't transfer all 22 G7 700's. Give us a total fleet of 10-15 CR7's, let GoJet operate the remainder for a short term, and go buy 10 175SC's to start the fleet with at 9E. Then once that's up, you can transfer the CPZ 175's over.
03-18-2018 | 02:33 PM
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03-18-2018 | 02:37 PM
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If you think a merger doesn't incite a mass exodus of pilots from 9E, I think you're crazy. It might be the most efficient way to get them on property, but probably not staffing them. How many years did the Pinnacolaba merger take to get over? According to some people, we still haven't...
03-18-2018 | 02:37 PM
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03-18-2018 | 06:39 PM
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I can’t say we do or don’t, but neither can you. Last I heard was 9E has its fingers on or nearby a sim, mx personnel were working on a program, check airman were scheduled to get trained but did not go at the last minute. So we don’t officially have a “program created,” we’ve got the ground work laid out to pick back up with the process.
03-19-2018 | 04:28 AM
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I'm not a pilot who says "**** the other guy, as long as I'm ok, I don't care" I'm actually quite the opposite. I'll give someone the shirt off my back if he needs it, but that's not what we're talking about.
I had the option to go to other companies (and I did start somewhere else), but one of the main reasons I came to 9E is because of the stability associated with Delta owning 9E. I made a smart decision (at least for the moment it seems like it was smart) and I don't think that someone who made a bad decision should have higher seniority than I do.
An argument can be made that compass isn't a "drowning company"...but for the purpose of this post, I'm speaking in generalities
03-19-2018 | 05:21 AM
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2018 Tax breaks gone?
Has anyone else stopped tipping as a result of 2018 business expense deductions being removed from pilots tax filings?
They say we get more back but there was a lot being deducted.
Anyone know the 2018 tax impacts, if any, for Per Diem?
They say we get more back but there was a lot being deducted.
Anyone know the 2018 tax impacts, if any, for Per Diem?
03-19-2018 | 05:35 AM
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