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Old 01-24-2022, 03:29 PM
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that email sounded desperate…
Yea. I actually agree. I thought halfway through they were just going to beg people to stay. They better figure it out fast.
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Old 01-24-2022, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by web500sjc View Post
that email sounded desperate…
I agree with that too. They better come up with something quick and not drag this out over the next few months....which I wouldn't be surprised to see.
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Old 01-24-2022, 03:45 PM
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This will be interesting, the only real efficiency increase they get contractual relief on, is the contactability issue, but if they do, that will only speed up attrition.
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Old 01-24-2022, 06:06 PM
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If they want to improve efficiency and QOL, let’s get 4 days off between trips, and 5 hour min day. And green reserve grids.
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Old 01-24-2022, 06:08 PM
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If they want to improve efficiency and QOL, let’s get 4 days off between trips, and 5 hour min day. And green reserve grids.
Rigs would probably help a lot.
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Old 01-24-2022, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah View Post
This will be interesting, the only real efficiency increase they get contractual relief on, is the contactability issue, but if they do, that will only speed up attrition.
They want and need off seniority list instructors. Pilots will be on and off property too quickly to even become an APD. They will get that and direct contact. Direct contact will not be as big of a deal as everyone thinks. We basically are that on duty now anyways. It just is a reach around way of doing it.

We will see pay increases, schedule improvements, and retention bonus money thrown at us for each career step. Ie upgrade, flow, etc. I'd expect to see quarterly bonuses too. This will all happen quick followed by Delta new contract which will eventually absorb at least 50% of us by the end of 2022.
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Old 01-24-2022, 07:07 PM
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They want and need off seniority list instructors. Pilots will be on and off property too quickly to even become an APD. They will get that and direct contact. Direct contact will not be as big of a deal as everyone thinks. We basically are that on duty now anyways. It just is a reach around way of doing it.

We will see pay increases, schedule improvements, and retention bonus money thrown at us for each career step. Ie upgrade, flow, etc. I'd expect to see quarterly bonuses too. This will all happen quick followed by Delta new contract which will eventually absorb at least 50% of us by the end of 2022.
Direct contact is an extremely big deal. You think they’re messing with peoples schedules now. If you give that up, this place will get ugly fast. Once you open Pandora’s box you won’t be able to close it.
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Old 01-24-2022, 07:20 PM
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Direct contact is an extremely big deal. You think they’re messing with peoples schedules now. If you give that up, this place will get ugly fast. Once you open Pandora’s box you won’t be able to close it.
Hard no on direct contract. But I would like at least a 3:1 duty rig. Get paid at least an extra 3 hrs for these 9-11hr duty days that have long sits in them.
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Old 01-24-2022, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Zerosilver84 View Post
Hard no on direct contract. But I would like at least a 3:1 duty rig. Get paid at least an extra 3 hrs for these 9-11hr duty days that have long sits in them.
Yeah reserve trips all currently getting long sits in NYC (de facto ready reserve) … I’ve got both JetBlue and Sprit talent folks asking me to apply and wondering why I’ve stayed this long
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Old 01-25-2022, 02:41 AM
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Yeah reserve trips all currently getting long sits in NYC (de facto ready reserve) … I’ve got both JetBlue and Sprit talent folks asking me to apply and wondering why I’ve stayed this long
Rsv are getting it the worst but like holders aren't far behind. Every trip this month and next month has had/have multiple 2-2.5 hr sits every trip. Avg 8 hrs of sits every trip. I would gladly love almost 3 hrs of pay for that.

Why stay this long?
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