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05-08-2018 | 10:36 AM
#41
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This agreement is a POS for those that have been here and paid there dues over and over.
05-08-2018 | 10:37 AM
#42
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Yes, you can now bid at 950 hours because f/o's will be given 50 hours if IOE thus taking them over 1000 for the fed ride.
Protected pilots yes, the rest no.
In addition, am I reading that they will allow FO’s to bid for upgrade at 950 hours now? I only say that because of the wording stating they will displace pilots to get FO’s from 800-949. I was under the impression we could even bid for upgrade until 1000 hours. Of course I could be just misreading that part.
In addition, am I reading that they will allow FO’s to bid for upgrade at 950 hours now? I only say that because of the wording stating they will displace pilots to get FO’s from 800-949. I was under the impression we could even bid for upgrade until 1000 hours. Of course I could be just misreading that part.
05-08-2018 | 10:53 AM
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Haven’t read it yet but heard the flow drops to 125/year after protected pilots? 10 a month average . If so.... there goes any meaningful flow at Envoy particularly if you’re an older pilot. Flow went up in smoke as a lot of guys said it would. It was just fairy dust.
05-08-2018 | 11:00 AM
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There is a long line out the door.....
05-08-2018 | 11:01 AM
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Unless AA hires a lot more yes, at least how I am reading it. Basically just took the flow right out of the equation and virtually guarantees A lot will be going to their competition.
05-08-2018 | 11:04 AM
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05-08-2018 | 11:11 AM
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No. It goes to 15/month for the pre-DOS. Then post-DOS it's the lesser of 25% of the total new hires at AA for the entire year, or the equation that's based on the size of our seniority list. Based on our current size, it boils down to the lesser of 25% or 20ish a month. The 25% figure will more than likely be the limiting factor which would break down to about 18/month depending if AA can hit their new hire class number goals.
05-08-2018 | 11:17 AM
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No. It goes to 15/month for the pre-DOS. Then post-DOS it's the lesser of 25% of the total new hires at AA for the entire year, or the equation that's based on the size of our seniority list. Based on our current size, it boils down to the lesser of 25% or 20ish a month. The 25% figure will more than likely be the limiting factor which would break down to about 18/month depending if AA can hit their new hire class number goals.
05-08-2018 | 11:21 AM
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Where are you guys reading that anything changes for non PP’s? All this loa does is settle the grievance for the group currently flowing which currently has a grievance pertaining to them.
Once all the PP’s have flowed and the company violates that agreement then anothe grievance will be filed.
I’m a non PP and while the LOA isn’t perfect it does fix more things than not.
05-08-2018 | 11:30 AM
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I see the brains trust is put in full force today.
Where are you guys reading that anything changes for non PP’s? All this loa does is settle the grievance for the group currently flowing which currently has a grievance pertaining to them.
Once all the PP’s have flowed and the company violates that agreement then anothe grievance will be filed.
I’m a non PP and while the LOA isn’t perfect it does fix more things than not.
Where are you guys reading that anything changes for non PP’s? All this loa does is settle the grievance for the group currently flowing which currently has a grievance pertaining to them.
Once all the PP’s have flowed and the company violates that agreement then anothe grievance will be filed.
I’m a non PP and while the LOA isn’t perfect it does fix more things than not.
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