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Old 10-08-2021, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665 View Post
This is who’s running the show at mothership…. And why there’s big trouble on the horizon.

https://viewfromthewing.com/american...llion-in-debt/
On point accuracy, it's a horrible mismanaged mess.
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Old 10-08-2021, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665 View Post
This is who’s running the show at mothership…. And why there’s big trouble on the horizon.

https://viewfromthewing.com/american...llion-in-debt/
I don’t see this addressing the questions I raised in my latest post. I agree, things look messed up at the parent airline. Of course I read similar or worse on Alaska and for Boeing, and others.

You do not have to bend over backwards to explain this. I can connect the dots you stated. AAG is so screwed up with decisions that it is almost assured all decisions they make will be wrong, opposite of what makes sense, and contrary to good reasoning. Have I accurately stated your position?
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Old 10-09-2021, 09:24 AM
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I don’t see this addressing the questions I raised in my latest post. I agree, things look messed up at the parent airline. Of course I read similar or worse on Alaska and for Boeing, and others.

You do not have to bend over backwards to explain this. I can connect the dots you stated. AAG is so screwed up with decisions that it is almost assured all decisions they make will be wrong, opposite of what makes sense, and contrary to good reasoning. Have I accurately stated your position?
much more so at Envoy. They are followers, not innovators; worse, anybody with innovative ideas is crushed so they retain their fiefdom.
Parker is predictable in a different way….. Lorenzo
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Old 10-09-2021, 03:15 PM
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Agree 6-7 years, but think of flow as a backup plan. Better options will come your way in the meantime.

I would stay away from PDT, their current business model doesn’t allow for much growth or sustainability. As for PSA vs ENY it depends where you live.
Well, I Live in both bases. So go ahead. PSA Vs Envoy. Which one and why?

As others have said in the Piedmont forum to me, Piedmont sounds like a crap airline and is at the bottom of the barrel for me.
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Old 10-09-2021, 06:54 PM
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Well, I Live in both bases. So go ahead. PSA Vs Envoy. Which one and why?

As others have said in the Piedmont forum to me, Piedmont sounds like a crap airline and is at the bottom of the barrel for me.
How many houses you got?
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Old 10-09-2021, 07:13 PM
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How many houses you got?
Currently live in Miami just for time building but don't mind living here, I like it. Original house is in Philly. So I either continue to stay here, or go back.
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Old 10-10-2021, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by RandomPilotDude View Post
Currently live in Miami just for time building but don't mind living here, I like it. Original house is in Philly. So I either continue to stay here, or go back.
If you go Envoy and are dealt 145, you probably won’t be based in MIA again until you upgrade and switch airplanes. If you get 175 great, but it’s a crapshoot which airplane you’ll be dealt.

On the other hand, PHL seems fairly junior at PSA and it’s attainable, PSA might be my move.
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Old 10-10-2021, 06:16 AM
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If you go Envoy and are dealt 145, you probably won’t be based in MIA again until you upgrade and switch airplanes. If you get 175 great, but it’s a crapshoot which airplane you’ll be dealt.

On the other hand, PHL seems fairly junior at PSA and it’s attainable, PSA might be my move.
Yeah it has to be Philly or Miami.

Dumb question, but what is it based on, if I get the 175 or 145? I heard it's based on the age of new hires?

Sucks you can't pick your airplane like Skywest does to its new hires.

Also where are the junior 145 guys in? Chicago?
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Old 10-10-2021, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RandomPilotDude View Post
Yeah it has to be Philly or Miami.

Dumb question, but what is it based on, if I get the 175 or 145? I heard it's based on the age of new hires?

Sucks you can't pick your airplane like Skywest does to its new hires.

Also where are the junior 145 guys in? Chicago?
In class seniority is based first on whether or not you are a cadet and entry date into the program, then prior 121 based on hours and finally everyone else based on age.

145s have been going to ORD, but in theory a new hire can hold either base (DFW) after the next bid. Same is true of the 175 to include MIA.

As always, buyer be ware. No way of knowing what the demographics of the rest of the class is, or what will be offered in any given class.
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Old 10-10-2021, 07:09 AM
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In class seniority is based first on whether or not you are a cadet and entry date into the program, then prior 121 based on hours and finally everyone else based on age.

145s have been going to ORD, but in theory a new hire can hold either base (DFW) after the next bid. Same is true of the 175 to include MIA.

As always, buyer be ware. No way of knowing what the demographics of the rest of the class is, or what will be offered in any given class.
Hey thanks for this response. Answers all my questions.
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