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02-26-2019, 05:00 PM
#601
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
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Originally Posted by Naviator
This is what happens when we have four different sources for the same information, none of which agree, only one of which is “official” and it’s known to be wrong. Too bad we can’t get accurate info from either the company or the union. Or better yet from both.
I'm happy to stand corrected if I'm off with my numbers.
02-26-2019, 06:47 PM
#602
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,054
Originally Posted by dera
The base-specific seniority list seems somewhat accurate. It also correlates well with 3XP. That's why I was using that as my source.
I'm happy to stand corrected if I'm off with my numbers.
I'm happy to stand corrected if I'm off with my numbers.
I.e. it shows who is going to be where when the flow plan it is based upon had a chance to run its course.
For example, on the CRJ side it does not include FOs going into upgrade classes March, April and May, but does show the two pilots that won't be online until early May.
In other words, that particular list shows (sort of) what the things will look like in May 2019.
The confusion, if that's the list you are going by, is understandable. Read the header though.
02-26-2019, 07:11 PM
#604
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,469
Originally Posted by BigZ
That list is a projection into the future.
I.e. it shows who is going to be where when the flow plan it is based upon had a chance to run its course.
For example, on the CRJ side it does not include FOs going into upgrade classes March, April and May, but does show the two pilots that won't be online until early May.
In other words, that particular list shows (sort of) what the things will look like in May 2019.
The confusion, if that's the list you are going by, is understandable. Read the header though.
I.e. it shows who is going to be where when the flow plan it is based upon had a chance to run its course.
For example, on the CRJ side it does not include FOs going into upgrade classes March, April and May, but does show the two pilots that won't be online until early May.
In other words, that particular list shows (sort of) what the things will look like in May 2019.
The confusion, if that's the list you are going by, is understandable. Read the header though.
I compared it to 3XP and the reserve list, so I know I'm not counting the bottom 21 who are not through training/IOE yet.
02-26-2019, 07:12 PM
#605
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,469
Originally Posted by BigZ
The month when dera gets a line and has less free time on his hands cannot come soon enough 
Instead of these snarky remarks, you could perhaps show me where I went wrong with the numbers I posted? And show me who really is the junior lineholder, when you claim it is not who I (and 3XP) said it is.
02-26-2019, 07:27 PM
#607
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,054
Originally Posted by dera
That's not causing any confusion in my end.
I compared it to 3XP and the reserve list, so I know I'm not counting the bottom 21 who are not through training/IOE yet.
I compared it to 3XP and the reserve list, so I know I'm not counting the bottom 21 who are not through training/IOE yet.
For the smallish CRJ FO group of 60ish that's a difference of 10-12 seniority numbers to hold a line.
Also when checking for the line holder's seniority, go by the actual lines, not relief/composite. Guys don't want them/forget to check the box/whatever, so those sometimes go way junior.
02-26-2019, 07:31 PM
#608
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Posts: 1,054
Originally Posted by dera
Oh and - just wait for the day they assign me Standby Reserve. That's when I get REALLY bored....
02-26-2019, 07:45 PM
#609
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Originally Posted by BigZ
Also compare the top portion - as stated, you are also not counting the pilots that will go to upgrade training next 2-3 months, but will hold the lines before that happens.
For the smallish CRJ FO group of 60ish that's a difference of 10-12 seniority numbers to hold a line.
Also when checking for the line holder's seniority, go by the actual lines, not relief/composite. Guys don't want them/forget to check the box/whatever, so those sometimes go way junior.
For the smallish CRJ FO group of 60ish that's a difference of 10-12 seniority numbers to hold a line.
Also when checking for the line holder's seniority, go by the actual lines, not relief/composite. Guys don't want them/forget to check the box/whatever, so those sometimes go way junior.
Again, the actual numbers: BLK 244, a hard line, went to a 8/13/2018 hire. 10 people ahead of him also hold hard lines. So it's not just a random anomaly.
Highest CMP line, BLK 333, went to a 8/27/2018 hire.
If I'm reading 3XP wrong, do let me know. I can sound like an opinionated a**hole here, but I'm also more than happy to admit if I'm wrong.
02-26-2019, 07:49 PM
#610
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,054
Originally Posted by dera
If I'm reading 3XP wrong, do let me know. I can sound like an opinionated a**hole here, but I'm also more than happy to admit if I'm wrong.
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