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jaxsurf 04-25-2021 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by ElCaribe (Post 3226306)
Outsider here. I highly disagree. Thakooj was the whole reason I read the Envoy forum. You can’t not enjoy reading his material.

Saaaaaame.

He was the most entertaining part of this website. 123494 was just downright depressing.

NoValueAviator 04-25-2021 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3226272)
Including the former Chief Pilot in LGA who was so nice to all of the pilots who he mentored.

Watching with interest. Is he well connected enough to wriggle out of it somehow?

ClappedOut145 04-25-2021 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by coodrough568 (Post 3226433)
I’ve had no laughable reading material for my long flights since he was banned. How will all these cadets know they’re hot $hit now??

Their brand new Luggage Works bags and sweet cadet polo shirts will signify their superiority to the group. RW will also tout how important they are and how they’re the future of aviation.

Propeller 04-25-2021 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3226468)
Their brand new Luggage Works bags and sweet cadet polo shirts will signify their superiority to the group. RW will also tout how important they are and how they’re the future of aviation.

But no free bags for those already on property? I want a free bag too

ClappedOut145 04-25-2021 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by Propeller (Post 3226479)
But no free bags for those already on property? I want a free bag too

If you didn’t put your time in as a cadet then all you get is last choice of planes and the privilege of airport standby on bastard island. You will get this and you will like it. Broken elevators, tail mounted engines, inop moving walkways, and Whataburger. This is the way.

mkitrn 04-25-2021 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3226483)
If you didn’t put your time in as a cadet then all you get is last choice of planes and the privilege of airport standby on bastard island. You will get this and you will like it. Broken elevators, tail mounted engines, inop moving walkways, and Whataburger. This is the way.

Whataburger is awesome

CLE to IAH 04-25-2021 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3226483)
If you didn’t put your time in as a cadet then all you get is last choice of planes and the privilege of airport standby on bastard island. You will get this and you will like it. Broken elevators, tail mounted engines, inop moving walkways, and Whataburger. This is the way.

and a lifetime of “BING” ringing in your ears and in your nightmares.

CptnDave 04-25-2021 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3226483)
If you didn’t put your time in as a cadet then all you get is last choice of planes and the privilege of airport standby on bastard island. You will get this and you will like it. Broken elevators, tail mounted engines, inop moving walkways, and Whataburger. This is the way.

That’s right! 145 guys have a Whataburger out in the boonies.

NoValueAviator 04-25-2021 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3226591)
and a lifetime of “BING” ringing in your ears and in your nightmares.

*BING*
ICE CONDITION
SPS ICE SPEEDS
BLD 1 (2) LOW TEMP

.....


*BING BING BING*
STAB A/ICE FAIL
WG A/ICE FAIL
ICE COND-A/I INOP


The real ones know

pitchattitude 04-25-2021 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3226483)
If you didn’t put your time in as a cadet then all you get is last choice of planes and the privilege of airport standby on bastard island. You will get this and you will like it. Broken elevators, tail mounted engines, inop moving walkways, and Whataburger. This is the way.

Of course, those SNJs might turn into145s and vice versa this time around so being a cadet won’t help when classes restart.

dera 04-25-2021 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3226412)
Watching with interest. Is he well connected enough to wriggle out of it somehow?

It would require contractual relief. Which needs MEC approval.

martyByrde 04-25-2021 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3226643)
It would require contractual relief. Which needs MEC approval.

I hope the MEC doesn’t get too gracious. Especially after he ******d so many people over as CP.

CLE to IAH 04-25-2021 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3226604)
*BING*
ICE CONDITION
SPS ICE SPEEDS
BLD 1 (2) LOW TEMP

.....


*BING BING BING*
STAB A/ICE FAIL
WG A/ICE FAIL
ICE COND-A/I INOP


The real ones know

Thanks. you just gave me some hard core flashbacks. That damn airplane bings for everything.

don’t forget though....

BING you landed.

BING youre taxiing too fast and and you scared the spoilers.

BING stop trimming things

havick206 04-25-2021 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3226604)
*BING*
ICE CONDITION
SPS ICE SPEEDS
BLD 1 (2) LOW TEMP

.....


*BING BING BING*
STAB A/ICE FAIL
WG A/ICE FAIL
ICE COND-A/I INOP


The real ones know

But there’s no more 140’s at LGA :)

Propeller 04-26-2021 07:50 AM

*BING*
FUELING DOOR OPEN

Everything makes it bing... and when im first to the plane I hear the bing as soon as the gate agent opens the door for the jetbridge. Its pretty far away too....

pangolin 04-26-2021 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3225983)
I know many of you guys are Texans accustomed to at-will employment and worship your employers on some level, and while I made my last post which some of you seem to be taking seriously in jest, if you really think it's that farfetched to hold their feet to the fire about their reckless flow promises, you should look into promissory estoppel. The last thing they want is us flying their beautiful airbii any sooner than is absolutely necessary to keep new suckers lining up in Irving, but I could see someone awarding us something.

You were on to something. Right up until that last half sentence. Must be a contact high.

buddies8 04-26-2021 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Inclined plane (Post 3226296)
You seem to not understand that I am not the one hypothetically dreaming. People I’ve flown with were. JC!!! Either you’re trolling me, or are really dense and missing details here. Who is your AME? And is he/she reasonably priced? Good availability? Might be good to have in my bullpen.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

.
Ame is free, want his phone number. I understood what you said and responded to what was being said. If it came across being directed to you personally that's my mistake.

Inclined plane 04-26-2021 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 3226873)
.
Ame is free, want his phone number. I understood what you said and responded to what was being said. If it came across being directed to you personally that's my mistake.


Cool. No worries. Beer is on me.


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CLE to IAH 04-26-2021 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3226852)
You were on to something. Right up until that last half sentence. Must be a contact high.

so what’s the latest at Mesa?

CptnDave 04-26-2021 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3226891)
so what’s the latest at Mesa?

Moving all operations to Europe, pilots are all busy studying for their EASA ATP's

ClappedOut145 04-26-2021 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by martyByrde (Post 3226679)
I hope the MEC doesn’t get too gracious. Especially after he ******d so many people over as CP.

I’m sure that RN and RW will make sure he flows on time. He did their bidding as CP and didn’t care who he stepped on. They’ll take care of their boy. The mechanism to do so exists. They just have decide on the risk/reward.

aewhistleblower 04-27-2021 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3227048)
I’m sure that RN and RW will make sure he flows on time. He did their bidding as CP and didn’t care who he stepped on. They’ll take care of their boy. The mechanism to do so exists. They just have decide on the risk/reward.

Him stepping down as a CP to fly the line and be a LCA did not age well.

reandld 04-27-2021 04:45 PM

Is Kooj even at Envoy anymore? Pretty sure he started his shenanigans back in the days of EagleLounge.

The 123494 guy was one of my favorites. A little out there at times but funny.

ninerdriver 04-28-2021 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 3225930)
I understand the sentiment, but if what you were told is not in your contract that you signed, well what can I say. Why would aa want to basically want to take those flows that did not flow because there was no new hire class as per cba. Im just asking where you folks get these ideas, you think this is starbucks. Maybe they will, my money is on not, not to be an *** but don't see the upside for them. If you leave for elsewhere guess what the guy getting hired at envoy in 2 months will move up faster and flow faster and it makes the recruiters job real easy. But what do I know, not much.

Wait... I've been away for a few days and must have missed something.

Y'all have a flow to Starbucks now?

at6d 04-28-2021 10:52 AM

Hey when I see “The Commander” are we taking about TW? Back from the Eagle days?

dera 04-28-2021 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 3227793)
Hey when I see “The Commander” are we taking about TW? Back from the Eagle days?

The man. The legend.

Cyio 04-28-2021 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 3227793)
Hey when I see “The Commander” are we taking about TW? Back from the Eagle days?

That’s the one.

highfarfast 04-28-2021 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by reandld (Post 3227450)
Is Kooj even at Envoy anymore? Pretty sure he started his shenanigans back in the days of EagleLounge.

The 123494 guy was one of my favorites. A little out there at times but funny.

The boob is at AA now... well sorta... he got furloughed... then whatever the recall for pay but not fly status was called... and I believe should be waiting on training to rejoin AA. Glad he’s been gone as long as he’s been gone and hope it stays that way.

And I agree about 123numbersguy. I don’t know why he ruffled so many feathers. His posts seemed so much like intentional satire I couldn’t take it any other way. His posts/post history were nothing like the boob’s.

martyByrde 04-28-2021 03:34 PM

Anyone else find it ironic the company won’t allow donations of SICK TIME, to a SICK cohort. I realize it’s not in the CBA, but still...

CptnDave 04-28-2021 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by martyByrde (Post 3227938)
Anyone else find it ironic the company won’t allow donations of SICK TIME, to a SICK cohort. I realize it’s not in the CBA, but still...

Idk about Ironic, would be nice I guess but could also create issues.

Cujo665 04-29-2021 01:49 AM


Originally Posted by CptnDave (Post 3227978)
Idk about Ironic, would be nice I guess but could also create issues.

RF100 DON8 no longer works? Or was that VAC time? It’s been a while...

buddies8 04-29-2021 06:12 AM

Were we not able to donate sick time before, thought we could.

ClappedOut145 04-29-2021 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 3228144)
Were we not able to donate sick time before, thought we could.

Section 29.O outlines it all.

martyByrde 05-05-2021 06:38 PM

What’s the likelihood of the Opener landing in arbitration?

AV8R72 05-05-2021 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by martyByrde (Post 3231405)
What’s the likelihood of the Opener landing in arbitration?

It was supposed to end 31 March....so my guess is it’s all going to arbitration since the union hasn’t made an attempt to communicate anything

dera 05-05-2021 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by AV8R72 (Post 3231420)
It was supposed to end 31 March....so my guess is it’s all going to arbitration since the union hasn’t made an attempt to communicate anything

Like the email that wasn't sent today?

ClappedOut145 05-06-2021 01:46 AM


Originally Posted by AV8R72 (Post 3231420)
It was supposed to end 31 March....so my guess is it’s all going to arbitration since the union hasn’t made an attempt to communicate anything

Seems like they have sent quite a few emails. Still, the company is going to drag it out and the likelihood that it does go to arbitration seems more likely.

AV8R72 05-06-2021 02:28 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3231438)
Like the email that wasn't sent today?

Five weeks with nothing..and the day I say someone on APC is when it comes out. Lol

Broccoli Rob 05-06-2021 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by reandld (Post 3227450)
Is Kooj even at Envoy anymore? Pretty sure he started his shenanigans back in the days of EagleLounge.

The 123494 guy was one of my favorites. A little out there at times but funny.

Any chance you're 123494? Because you definitely took a page out of his book with the whole "loser" theme over on the Delta or United thread.


Originally Posted by reandld (Post 3231265)
All I really care about when it comes to a career is how much money I can make. I don't care about anything else. Sometimes I feel like a loser for choosing to be an airline pilot early on in my life. At least we earn decent wages that we can invest and turn into income producing assets.



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